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[12:17]<prffyrrmuvax>MickMcMack: dutchmen are everywhere ... ;-)
[12:17]<wxzyv>crap, now i have the sources.
[12:17]<wxzyv>blender uses ode?
[12:18]<myrrmrmrrr>Ik ben een wannabe Nederlander! >:(
[12:18]<prffyrrmuvax>ik ben een echte
[12:18]<bnbzrw>ok. quicktut: 1. add/curve/bezier circle 2. find editing\Curve and Surface in the button window
[12:18]<bnbzrw>you can find the bevel controls there
[12:18]<bnbzrw>also you can make neat stuff using BevOb and taper
[12:19]<myrrmrmrrr>fallingdutch, make me a bagel!
[12:19]<myrrmrmrrr>That so didn't make sense.
[12:19]<bnbzrw>you can do similar things with subsurfs too of course
[12:19]<myrrmrmrrr>But the only context I've seen "echte" in is "De Echte Bakkers". :x
[12:20]<prffyrrmuvax>thanks, BeBraw, i will give it a try and ask again if i have further problems :-)
[12:20]<bnbzrw>fallingdutch: ok. good luck
[12:20]<prffyrrmuvax>thanks ... will need it
[12:20]<myrrmrmrrr>Whar is my bagel!?
[12:22]<wxzyv>so to build blender in need to have 14 other things installed first?
[12:23]<myrrmrmrrr>Or a real distro.
[12:23]<myrrmrmrrr>;)
[12:23]<wxzyv>your distro comes with ODE?
[12:23]<wxzyv>that is pretty harcore.
[12:23]<wxzyv>windows doesnt come with ode.
[12:23]<wxzyv>:(
[12:24]<wxzyv>why does blender need netscape?
[12:24]<pggg>for the plugin crap
[12:24]<wxzyv>oh.
[12:25]<pggg>i dont think it actually needs netscape
[12:25]<pggg>there is a bunch of stuff you can turn off in the makefiles
[12:25]<wxzyv>so i need to have netscape sources installed too?
[12:25]<pggg>no
[12:25]<wxzyv>...
[12:25]<wxzyv>ok.
[12:25]<wxzyv>so i just type make?
[12:26]<pggg>yep
[12:26]<wxzyv>well, that sucked.
[12:26]<pggg>might want to open up the makefile and turn off the crap you dont want
[12:26]<wxzyv>make: /source/tools/guess/guessconfig: Command not found
[12:26]<wxzyv>mkdir: cannot create directory `/obj/': Permission denied
[12:27]<myrrmrmrrr>You fail at the intarweb. :(
[12:27]<pggg>um.. you are in the top level of the blender directory right?
[12:27]<wxzyv>i had to make the makefile executeable?
[12:28]<wxzyv>no.
[12:28]<wxzyv>i'm in teh source directory.
[12:28]<wxzyv>lol, yeah that is teh top level.
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>IT IS
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>THE
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>NOT
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>TEH
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>:|
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>Teh is acceptable on rare occasions.
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>But not EVERY SINGLE time.
[12:28]<myrrmrmrrr>:(
[12:29]<myrrmrmrrr></rant>
[12:29]<wxzyv>:P
[12:29]<pggg>like when talking about the intarwebs - hey my irc client wont let me type 'teh'
[12:29]<pggg>weird
[12:29]<wxzyv>heh
[12:29]<wxzyv>you use gaim?
[12:29]<pggg>xchat
[12:29]<wxzyv>oh.
[12:29]<pggg>i didnt think it had any dumb shit like that
[12:29]<wxzyv>gaim wont let you
[12:30]<wxzyv>unless you tell it not to.
[12:30]<myrrmrmrrr>fenn, exactly, when making a satirical statement you are allowed to use it.
[12:30]<wxzyv>allowed, pfft.
[12:30]<wxzyv>are you kicking people for using teh word?
[12:31]<wxzyv>are you teh boss ov teh internet?
[12:31]<myrrmrmrrr>Or you can use it all the time and look like a 13 year old pre-pubesent idiot?
[12:31]<pggg>consider yourself lucky that you can even type such a thing
[12:31]<myrrmrmrrr>+c
[12:31]<pggg>oh the things we take for granted
[12:31]<myrrmrmrrr>fenn, moi? :o
[12:32]<pggg>teh haves and teh not haves
[12:32]<myrrmrmrrr>:sigh:
[12:32]<wxzyv>it is hard to type with 2 fingers.
[12:33]<djdjry-rwgg>O_o
[12:33]<pggg>its harder to type with no fingers
[12:33]<myrrmrmrrr>Here come the excuses!
[12:33]<myrrmrmrrr>Next it's gonna be the classic "cat on the keyboard" line.
[12:33]<myrrmrmrrr>:-\
[12:33]<djdjry-rwgg>ahaha
[12:34]<djdjry-rwgg>I agree with MickMcMack, _THE_ not _TEH_
[12:34]<myrrmrmrrr>Although I'm told that you can get a daemon that detects cat-keyboard mashings!
[12:34]<myrrmrmrrr>And locks the keyboard to ignore said mashings. :)
[12:34]<pggg>does it electrically shock the cat to prevent further abuse? >:)
[12:35]<pggg>the 'cat'
[12:35]<myrrmrmrrr>Only if you buy the special keyboard. :)
[12:35]<djdjry-rwgg>interesting
[12:35]<djdjry-rwgg>i should invest in that
[12:35]<djdjry-rwgg>my cat regularly finds my keyboard as the best pillow
[12:35]<djdjry-rwgg>-_-
[12:37]<wxzyv>lol
[12:38]<wxzyv>bsp frag node!
[12:38]<wxzyv>still compiling. it will take a while, i'm on a p3.
[12:38]<mjzzzjf>is there any way to append an object and have it suck in the armature and parenting structure as well? or do I have to redo it all?
[12:38]<wxzyv>umm, was i suposed to do something special to get debugging symbols?
[12:39]<djdjry-rwgg>xhrit: yeah, you're supposed to enable them in the makefiles
[12:39]<wxzyv>ok well.
[12:40]<wxzyv>error
[12:40]<lod>Mongrol, if you append an object with his armature, yes

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