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[18:54]<vd2r>for the most part I throw entire class c's around.
[18:54]<gndyvx>i don't get people are ok to use 10.1.0.0/24 but you make an interface with 10.1.255.0/24 and they get all bent out of shape
[18:54]<dzzc1lyvn>except and remove
[18:54]<[mzvzyw]>yeah, it's called a /30. Look into it.
[18:54]<vcul>Dark3Lite, out of curiosity i've always wanted to ask. What do you mean by "But up your best defense"?
[18:54]<dzzc1lyvn>heh
[18:54]<dzzc1lyvn>to answer that..
[18:54]<dzzc1lyvn>what is the best defense of your network?
[18:55]<gndyvx>they are like "oh nemith, that a broadcast address, you can't do that!"
[18:55]<dzzc1lyvn>that's not a broadcas.t.
[18:55]<dzzc1lyvn>lol
[18:55]<gndyvx>exactly
[18:55]<vcul>Dark3Lite, i've always thought you had a typo in there. i can't remember the full quit msg
[18:55]<dzzc1lyvn>But up your best defense but I would still Penetrate
[18:55]<dzzc1lyvn>omg
[18:55]<dzzc1lyvn>it is.
[18:55]<gndyvx>10.255.255.0/24 is my fav
[18:56]<gndyvx>for the freaking out of the ccna's
[18:56]<dzzc1lyvn>thanks tkup
[18:56]<dzzc1lyvn>I need to go back to school
[18:56]<dzzc1lyvn>and learn english
[18:56]<vcul>i would say typo
[18:56]<dzzc1lyvn>Put*
[18:56]<vcul>yeah
[18:57]<gndyvx>so i found another 7200 with a npe-300 in it
[18:57]<gndyvx>it is on, but i can't get to it
[18:57]<gndyvx>i wonder what it does
[18:57]<fjzvxnz>turn it off, that's a good way to find out :)
[18:58]<[mzvzyw]>nemith: you should send me that one too.
[18:58]<gndyvx>[Matrix]: really i got about 5 in the closet
[18:58]<[mzvzyw]>makes me cry. ;;
[18:59]<fjzvxnz>since you're giving them away
[18:59]<fjzvxnz>i could use one too :D
[18:59]<gndyvx>i said nothing of giving
[18:59]<gndyvx>they are mine... all mine
[18:59]<dzzc1lyvn>nemith: save them for the lab :P
[18:59]<gndyvx>muhhahahaa
[18:59]<mzfnj>:)
[18:59]<[mzvzyw]>He was just dangling a carrot in front of my face to taunt me. ;;
[19:00]<gndyvx>[Matrix]: hows the network coming?
[19:00]<fjzvxnz>heh, kinda like the crazy cat hoarders ... the crazy 7200 hoarder
[19:00]<[mzvzyw]>nemith: I've got the design worked out, but I've been too busy with customer/WAN issues to do anything so far.
[19:02]<vz2ufzzzsz>mmmmmmm carrots
[19:02]<[mzvzyw]>Yeah, I could really go for some carrots right now
[19:02]<xud2jfv>nemith: with turn off packet switching you mean turn off cef?
[19:02]<gndyvx>aye
[19:03]<[mzvzyw]>no ip route-cache ?
[19:03]<vz2ufzzzsz>no ip cef as well
[19:03]<[mzvzyw]>well you just wanted to turn it off on that one interface, right?
[19:04]<vz2ufzzzsz>helps to read.. :)
[19:05]<[mzvzyw]>I can't figure this out...
[19:06]<[mzvzyw]>PPTP connections through the PIX stop passing traffic after like 3-5 minutes idle time, but they show they're still connected.
[19:06]<vz2ufzzzsz>j00 suck!
[19:06]<fjzvxnz>parsnips, rutabaga, carrots, turnips, and celery, garlic, a bit of seasoning. dump in vegetable broth. really good soup.
[19:06]<vz2ufzzzsz>sounds like stone soup
[19:06]<[mzvzyw]>Wonder if like the GRE is closing or something.. I dunno the specifics on how PPTP works.
[19:10]<xum2jfmv>nemith: "i am doing debug ip packet on it" how can I do it on the interface only or will debug ip packet only show traffic form non-cef interfaces anyway?
[19:10]<mzfnj>debuging sucks
[19:12]<mzfnj>debuging under c++ or java is great compared to router/switch debuging with the cisco ios
[19:13]<msxjv_>debugging is pointless when you don't make any mistakes
[19:13]<msxjv_>imo
[19:13]<msxjv_>=P
[19:13]<mzfnj>nobody is perfect :D
[19:14]<xum2jfmv>dshot_: might not be yourself doing the mistakes. you might work in a team or had somebody manage the network before you.
[19:14]<msxjv_>never
[19:14]<dzzc1lyvn>brb
[19:14]<xum2jfmv>anyhow how can I debug ip packet on one interface only?
[19:15]<vz2ufzzzsz>use an access-list
[19:15]<msxjv>aye
[19:15]<xum2jfmv>tabularasa: I do not want to restrict by ip but by interface
[19:16]<vz2ufzzzsz>what subnet is that interface on?
[19:16]<xum2jfmv>I don't know what packets come into the interface, that's what I want to find out. the interfaces subnet is neither the destination nor the source subnet.
[19:17]<vz2ufzzzsz>ahhh
[19:17]<xum2jfmv>so my previous question was: if I turn of cef on just one interface
[19:17]<xum2jfmv>will ip debug packet only show the traffic on the non-cef non-route-cache interfaces
[19:18]<xum2jfmv>or will I be flooded with all traffic on the machine?
[19:18]<vz2ufzzzsz>is that interface non-vlanned and plugged into a switch?
[19:18]<xum2jfmv>serial
[19:19]<vz2ufzzzsz>ok, im running out of ideas
[19:19]<xum2jfmv>serial in the router
[19:19]<xum2jfmv>and the traffic might go out on another router interface never reaching the switch
[19:19]<[mzvzyw]>heading to lunch
[19:20]<xum2jfmv>nemith: how can I do "debug ip packet" on just one interface?
[19:20]<vcul>well it's "debug ip packet" "one interface" it's L1 and L3
[19:20]<vcul>it's hard to bind the two
[19:21]<xum2jfmv>nemith: no ip cef on the one interface actually turned off cef on the whole router by the way!
[19:21]<vcul>it would make sense to say "debug ip packet" "for a range of addresses"
[19:21]<2drrrxrg>humboldt what are you trying to do
[19:22]<xum2jfmv>I want to know what traffic is coming in on serial 2/4:0
[19:22]<xum2jfmv>I can't check it on the other side and no traffic is exiting the interface!
[19:23]<zzwffzdnz>RE
[19:23]<xum2jfmv>therefore I can't use ip accounting because it only works for outgoing traffic
[19:23]<xum2jfmv>RE ??
[19:23]<xum2jfmv>what is that
[19:24]<vcul>humboldt, what L2 protocols are you running on the serial link?
[19:26]<pwe>someone here using vpnc?
[19:26]<pwe>i got a question on how it sets the routing
[19:27]<xum2jfmv>hdlc
[19:27]<pwe>is this an answer?

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