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[00:01]<fjacmjwgq>-did you tell BT about the offer from NTL?
[00:04]<deee>-yep they couldn't match it
[00:04]<fjacmjwgq>-ah
[00:04]<fjacmjwgq>-they couldn't even come close?
[00:05]<deee>-no unfortunately not
[00:06]<[mzvzyw_]>-is there a way to enter multiple commands with one line?
[00:15]<-- sgvgzs xzs fuyv (>/dev/brain")
[00:16]<2zrgvj>-no
[00:17]<2zrgvj>-not that I know of, anyway
[00:17]<deee>-put the commands in a text file and put it on a tftp server ?
[00:18]<[mzvzyw_]>-guess I could edit the startup config and tftp it up, then copy start run
[00:23]<deee>-bit of a vague question but ... is the cisco localdirector any good ?
[00:27]<deee>-ok i can't quite tell if its still made anymore! any alternatives to it - Foundry ?
[01:48]<2zrgvj>yawn
[01:48]<mrxmjum>i have chapter 6 exam today, which is about RPR, RPR+, SRM, DRM, SSO..etc
[01:48]<mrxmjum>I wonder why they put this in advanced switching, it's all about routing
[01:56]<mrxmjum>can I have RPR+ with SSO? or they are two things that can't work with each other?
[01:57]<crvpyvn>route processor redundancy modes are mutually exclusive
[01:58]<mrxmjum>the confiusion came from the configuratoin
[01:58]<mrxmjum>config-red)# mode sso|rpr|rpr+
[01:59]<mrxmjum>it sounds like, I can select only one a time
[01:59]<mrxmjum>I still didn't get it..
[02:00]<mrxmjum>SSO says "L2 states copies from the supervisor engine, so zero intruption when he is down"
[02:00]<mrxmjum>SRM says "L3 entries copies from the supervisor engine, but wait me to update them and re-establish peers for routing tables"
[02:01]<mrxmjum>RPR+ says "configurations are in sync, the standby supervisor engine is fully operational and waiting for the active supervisor engine to die and take over him"
[02:01]<mrxmjum>right?
[02:02]<mrxmjum>as I see, they should all work together, since they don't overlap with each other.. what do you say?
[02:03]<mrxmjum>could someone show me the output of config-red)# mode ?
[02:03]<mrxmjum>someone enter this command config-red)# mode ? please
[02:19]<kz0gvr2>Mahmoud, you only run one mode at a time..
[02:21]<kz0gvr2>see http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00802e4a9c.html
[02:21]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, can't login
[02:22]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, do you mean that when i say "mode sso" will cancel my rpr-plus or rpr?
[02:22]<kz0gvr2>correct
[02:22]<mrxmjum>weird
[02:23]<mrxmjum>the chapter I have says, configure SSO on the designated supervisor, then do "copy run start" so it will be saved to the redundunt supervisor engine
[02:23]<kz0gvr2>Mahmoud, I can send you the PDF of "Catalyst 6500 Series Cisco IOS Software Configuration Guide, 12.2SX"
[02:23]<mrxmjum>I understood this as "do copy run start to let RPR to syn the config instead of doing it manually"
[02:23]<kz0gvr2>you need tyo specify what needs to be syncronized...
[02:23]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, okay! I'll be thankfull
[02:24]<kz0gvr2>running.. startup... bootvar's.. etc
[02:24]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, ftp://hqdcf.no-ip,info <-- paste it there, anon access allowed to save
[02:24]<mrxmjum>s/,/./
[02:25]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, who will sync? RPR or RPR+ right?
[02:27]<kz0gvr2>all of them have syncronization options...
[02:28]<gndyvx>SSO + NSF is better
[02:28]<kz0gvr2>Mahmoud, what sup engine you have
[02:28]<kz0gvr2>NSF + SSO is better.. but I dont think its supported on SUP1A, or SUP2 GE's...
[02:28]<gndyvx>sso and nsf both sync configs
[02:28]<kz0gvr2>I'd have to verify
[02:29]<mrxmjum>Kr0ntab, 720
[02:30]<mrxmjum>nemith, how to mak eit sso + nsf? the config command I know is config-red)# mode sso // and it will go for NSF and SSO as the chapter book says
[02:30]<kz0gvr2>oh so yer good
[02:30]<mrxmjum>i meant Kr0ntab instead of nemith
[02:31]<mrxmjum>nemith, so when I say sso, it will cancel the sync provided by RPR or rpr-plus?
[02:39]<kz0gvr2>Mahmoud, yer ftp site is friggin sloooow
[02:39]<mrxmjum>heh, it's my home ftp server
[02:40]<kz0gvr2>its all good... im uploading it somewhere else for you to download
[02:41]<mrxmjum>as you wish
[02:41]<kz0gvr2>you have a sup720 and you dont have a CCO account?
[02:41]<kz0gvr2>hehe
[02:42]<mrxmjum>actually, I don't have any thing
[02:42]<mrxmjum>I'm studying
[02:43]<mrxmjum>reading from netacad.net :P
[02:43]<mrxmjum>they are talking about sup720
[02:43]<mrxmjum>the most advanced cisco product I have access to is 3550 switches in my college lab
[02:44]<kz0gvr2>oh well friggin a
[02:44]<mrxmjum>is it 1.88 MB? the cat manual?
[02:45]<mrxmjum>hmm bigger
[02:47]<kz0gvr2>how to configure yer 6500's depends on software version. You have CatOS or IOS. Very different.
[02:47]<kz0gvr2>the book I was going to send you is 10.2MB
[02:47]<mrxmjum>oh
[02:55]<mrxmjum>netacad says, whenever you have SSO, it will have NSF automatically
[02:57]<kz0gvr2>that's correct... you use mode sso, and nfs is included..
[02:57]<kz0gvr2>oops
[02:57]<kz0gvr2>nsf
[02:58]<mrxmjum>hmm question about RPR+, as I know with RPR+
[02:58]<mrxmjum>As I know with RPR+ it keeps the redundunt supervisor engine fully operational
[02:58]<mrxmjum>also configs are in sync
[02:58]<mrxmjum>will the redundunt supervisor engine try to establish peerings for routing protocols it runs?
[03:03]<kz0gvr2>to my understanding, the active sup is the only one that actively controls switching, routing and related protocols...
[03:03]<kz0gvr2>with BGP... I know you have to configure both sups with the graceful restart function...
[03:04]<mrxmjum>talking about NSF?
[03:04]<kz0gvr2>correct
[03:05]<mrxmjum>but I'm talking about RPR
[03:05]<mrxmjum>mode rpr , or mode rpr-plus
[03:05]<mrxmjum>I think NSF is not running with RPR/rpr-plus
[03:05]<mrxmjum>mode sso will run NSF and the BGP stuff you said.
[03:06]<kz0gvr2>oh my bad... I was thinking you were still refering to SSO...
[03:07]<kz0gvr2>same answer though... the redundant sup should not be establishing anything of it's own "will" so to say
[03:09]<mrxmjum>i see
[03:10]<mrxmjum>to sum it up, we have differnet ways for redunduncy, configured with three modes, rpr, rpr-plus and sso
[03:10]<mrxmjum>sso will run sso, NSF and SRM
[03:10]<mrxmjum>is it true?
[03:13]<kz0gvr2>it supports NSF... but I don't know if it still support SRM.
[03:13]<kz0gvr2>actually... that config guide says "Release 12.2(18)SXD and later releases do not support SRM with SSO."
[03:14]<kz0gvr2>I would suggest readin the guide.
[03:14]<kz0gvr2>it'll give ya better answers than will of the top my head
[03:14]<kz0gvr2>than I will, i mean

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