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[22:00]<vz2ufzzzsz>is it pruned?
[22:00]<[mzvzyw]>nope
[22:01]<[mzvzyw]>pruning is disabled on the 5500
[22:01]<vz2ufzzzsz>you never turned that back on?
[22:01]<[mzvzyw]>whoops. <.<
[22:01]<vz2ufzzzsz>heh
[22:03]<dzzc1lyvn>hey
[22:03]<dzzc1lyvn>if I have a trunk link
[22:03]<dzzc1lyvn>and at one end I specify the native vlan
[22:03]<dzzc1lyvn>and at the other end I don't
[22:03]<dzzc1lyvn>would the trunk still be formed?
[22:04]<vz2ufzzzsz>yeah, but errors would be on your syslog "native vlan mismatch on blah blah"
[22:04]<dzzc1lyvn>ahh..
[22:04]<bsdrgdjg>how odd... on the vpn concentrator 3000, if you export the config file as xml, it gives you everyones cleartext passwords
[22:05]<dzzc1lyvn>heh
[22:06]<bsdrgdjg>yeh, maybe id better remove those before emailing them
[22:07]<dzzc1lyvn>tabularasa: The 802.1Q protocol uses point-to-point connectivity or point-to-multipoint connectivity
[22:07]<dzzc1lyvn>?
[22:07]<dzzc1lyvn>which do you prefer.
[22:08]<vz2ufzzzsz>it does?
[22:08]<vz2ufzzzsz>thats news to me
[22:09]<gndyvx>BSDaemon: aweseome
[22:09]<gndyvx>I needed to get the passwords for some old groups i had
[22:10]<dzzc1lyvn>it was a question
[22:10]<ald>that is awesome,
[22:10]<dzzc1lyvn>what do you think nemith
[22:10]<dzzc1lyvn>point-to-multipoint?
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>yeah, thats what im doing now too. but i dont know if he wants their passwords
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>ill send them to him if he really wants
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>i edited them out for now
[22:15]<vz2ufzzzsz>where do you see these settings Dark3Lite?
[22:15]<dzzc1lyvn>It's a question.
[22:15]<vz2ufzzzsz>is there, none of the above ?
[22:15]<dzzc1lyvn>.does it use point to point or point to multipoint..
[22:15]<dzzc1lyvn>no
[22:15]<dzzc1lyvn>it uses one..
[22:15]<vz2ufzzzsz>if you say so
[22:15]<vz2ufzzzsz>i dunno
[22:16]<vz2ufzzzsz>i just know how to work the shit
[22:16]<dzzc1lyvn>you ever set up one.
[22:16]<dzzc1lyvn>a tunnel..t aht is.
[22:16]<[mzvzyw]>a trunk is point-to-point, so I'd imagine dot1q is also.
[22:16]<vz2ufzzzsz>yeah, like i had a crapload of vlans
[22:16]<vz2ufzzzsz>thats a fuqqin stupid ass question
[22:17]<dzzc1lyvn>no it's not
[22:17]<ald>There are no stupid ass questions, , , unless I ask'em.
[22:18]<vz2ufzzzsz>heh
[22:21]<vz2ufzzzsz>a simple google search yields you are correct [Matrix]
[22:22]<vz2ufzzzsz>but...
[22:22]<vz2ufzzzsz>Dot1q does support point to multipoint technologies, for 1Qin1Q tunneling and Layer2 VPNs where you send your vtp information across VPNs or through a provider network using dot1q tunneling.
[22:22]<vz2ufzzzsz>Hence you can have multiple sites talking to a single site with dot1q tunneling..
[22:22]<jeeej>dark: is that an exam question?
[22:22]<ald>Do not configure PVLAN ports as EtherChannels.
[22:22]<ald>doh!
[22:23]<ald>man, they shouldn't let me touch this stuff
[22:23]<vz2ufzzzsz>heh
[22:23]<[mzvzyw]>They shouldn't let me touch this stuff either, but seeing as how they're only willing to pay $55k/yr, that's gonna be difficult.
[22:24]<vz2ufzzzsz>PVLAN was a good idea
[22:24]<r0mslnnm>what programs are you using to monitor your network?
[22:24]<gndyvx>cpm: heh
[22:24]<gndyvx>cpm: you got another switch to play with ? :P
[22:25]<r0mslnnm>i tried a lot of tools over the last few months.. but still not found _the_ one ;0
[22:25]<vz2ufzzzsz>isnt the whole point of ports in a PVLAN can't talk to each other, so like, etherchannel... uh...
[22:25]<vz2ufzzzsz>g0dspeed: define monitor
[22:25]<vz2ufzzzsz>like gather statistics, or up/down
[22:25]<r0mslnnm>actually both
[22:25]<vz2ufzzzsz>fuqkit. Statistics = Solwarwinds... Up/down = nagios
[22:26]<r0mslnnm>like snmp trap collection, plus live dashboard views
[22:26]<gndyvx>Solarwinds = crap nagios = crap
[22:26]<jeeej>easy: whatsup, harder/better: big brother, hardest/best: nagios
[22:26]<jeeej>nagios is hard to setup but it kicks ass
[22:26]<r0mslnnm>i actually wanted to try solarwinds orion in the next few days
[22:26]<vz2ufzzzsz>whats wrong with Solarwinds?
[22:26]<gndyvx>ozzzo: dude have you touched a real NMS>
[22:26]<vz2ufzzzsz>i thought you liked it
[22:26]<gndyvx>NNM is freaking hard to setup
[22:27]<gndyvx>but it can do so much
[22:27]<jeeej>are you talking about openview?
[22:27]<gndyvx>nagios... made for servers not networks
[22:27]<vz2ufzzzsz>nagios can do anything with a good scripter
[22:27]<gndyvx>solarwinds, made for people who don't understand MIBs and don't wish to use them
[22:27]<vz2ufzzzsz>thats most people... heh
[22:27]<jeeej>we use nagios for network monitoring, it's head and shoulders above everything I've used before
[22:27]<ald>tabularasa, I was trying to,. . . ah heck, I don't even know what I was trying to do.
[22:27]<gndyvx>NNM is openview
[22:27]<jeeej>openview may be nice but we don't have $100K laying around
[22:27]<dzzc1lyvn>nemith is this true
[22:27]<gndyvx>or even OpenNMS for that matter
[22:28]<dzzc1lyvn>An edge port that recieves a BPDU immediately loses it's edge port status and becomes a normal spanning-tree port.
[22:28]<vz2ufzzzsz>LOL
[22:28]<vz2ufzzzsz>read the books, and stop taking testkings
[22:28]<dzzc1lyvn>this is not testking
[22:28]<gndyvx>Dark3Lite: PVST?
[22:29]<dzzc1lyvn>this is from my knowledgenet book man
[22:29]<dzzc1lyvn>RSTP
[22:29]<gndyvx>er thats what i meant
[22:29]<dzzc1lyvn>I think it is..
[22:29]<gndyvx>that sounds right
[22:29]<[mzvzyw]>tabularasa: this coming from the man that took his testking to a printer to have it printed and bound
[22:29]<gndyvx>HA!

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