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[18:57]<[mzvzyw]>Hmm, interesting. New VWIC-2MFT-T1 is over $1k, but they're under $200 on ebay.... <.<
[19:01]<gndyvx>Zlo: int e0
[19:01]<gndyvx>ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
[19:01]<gndyvx>[Matrix]: they are also conterfits
[19:01]<ajfmysj_>[Matrix] from China for sure
[19:01]<gndyvx>http://www.affirmedsystems.com/fakewics.html
[19:01]<[mzvzyw]>well, shipping from US, but yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
[19:04]<ajfmysj_>nemith thats great =)
[19:05]<[mzvzyw]>Awesome, I have several fakes methinks
[19:05]<[mzvzyw]>I know for damn sure there hasn't been a holographic sticker on ANYTHING we've ordered
[19:06]<gndyvx>yeah
[19:06]<bsdrgdjg>ive never seen a holographic sticker before
[19:06]<gndyvx>hmm
[19:06]<gndyvx>they have been around for a couple of years
[19:07]<bsdrgdjg>well
[19:07]<bsdrgdjg>then again
[19:07]<ajfmysj_>you guys must buy a lot of grey market to not be getting a sticker =)
[19:07]<bsdrgdjg>our shit was all used
[19:07]<fjzvxnz>[Matrix]: they're probably cheap chinese knockoffs
[19:07]<fjzvxnz>oh, someone already said that.
[19:08]<gndyvx>yeah grey market is usual referb which won't have a sticker
[19:09]<[mzvzyw]>I doubt we've ever bought anything new
[19:09]<[mzvzyw]>all our shit comes from ebay.
[19:09]<fjzvxnz>now, one thing i wonder, is if the counterfiets use the same (or similar) parts, what's the harm?
[19:09]<fjzvxnz>i mean, of course you can't get support on them, but if you don't want/need support ...
[19:10]<gndyvx>then you are stupid :P
[19:10]<bsdrgdjg>if its for a home lab, id buy whatever is cheapest :)
[19:10]<ajfmysj_>I am with nemith on that one
[19:11]<fjzvxnz>well, definitely not for production environments
[19:11]<gndyvx>yeah home lab is different
[19:11]<fjzvxnz>i mean for a lab or something
[19:11]<ajfmysj_>we purchase a lot of grey as well but we do a lot of Q/A on it in house before we accept it. We don't buy ebay either we go through a VAR who has tested it as well and is supposed to be on the lookout for the knockoffs
[19:11]<[mzvzyw]>heh, I just found a fake one in that point to point router that's been crashing. Nice.
[19:11]<fjzvxnz>i bought a NM-1E a few months back I believe is counterfiet
[19:12]<ajfmysj_>Me either because that is Ancient
[19:12]<[mzvzyw]>has "GLG" in the jack instead of "Stewart"
[19:12]<rfv>loather: why do you believe that?
[19:12]<ald>Yeah, all the gbics I've bought, , and nearly all the wics I've bought, , (off ebay), all seem kinda funny, but they work okay. What's with that? are these all knockoffs?
[19:13]<[mzvzyw]>they're either used, refurbed, or fake.
[19:13]<ajfmysj_>GBICS/SFPS are one thing / Network Modules and Port Adapters are another
[19:14]<fjzvxnz>alt: the wuality isn't the same as the other NM modules. The main thing is the metal cage connected to the board. It's not the same grade steel as the steel used in genuine equipment.
[19:14]<dracf>Hi, is possible to set on c3550 or c3560 any routing interface over 2 vlans ?
[19:14]<dracf>i.e. I have vlan10 and vlan11 and I wanna to have only on interface, over which will be routed clients in vlan10 and also in vlan11
[19:15]<bsdrgdjg>our GBICS are "counterfeit" but they were never claimed to be real... the site we got them says "3rd party" right on it
[19:15]<bsdrgdjg>majkl: you mean a trunk?
[19:16]<ald>well, the last ones I bought (6) claimed to be real, but I really didn't care. But they were drop shipped from hong kong, guess that's sorta telling.
[19:16]<fjzvxnz>all my GBICs are real.
[19:16]<rfv>loather: it certainly wouldn't surprise me if there were conterfeit modules out there.
[19:16]<[mzvzyw]>Look inside the RJ48. If it says "GLG" then it's fake
[19:17]<[mzvzyw]>or rather, if it says anything other than "Stewart" inside the RJ48 then it's fake
[19:17]<zgacnz>we've bought over $200k worth of GBICs in the last few years, all of ours are authentic
[19:17]<rfv>loather: I have two different grades of steel on my NM Modules. I think Cisco just went to a different alloy.
[19:18]<rfv>I got mine from legit sources.
[19:18]<fjzvxnz>alt: yeah, when you can produce something en masse for cheap, then sell it at a huge markup, it makes sense to make counterfiets. Of course, that's illegal here, but that doesn't stop people from trying to sell them here :(
[19:18]<rfv>:\
[19:18]<fjzvxnz>ok. I did buy the module used, but I also bought it from someone in the US who was also selling a bunch of 3640s.
[19:19]<dracf>BSDaemon: I have c3550-12G and over gi0/1 are clients in 2 vlans (vlan10 and vlan11). c3550 do inter-vlan routing. Now I need to get clients in both vlans same IP subnet, but I can't to recinfigure switches behind me, some of clients will be in vlan 10 and some in vlan11. But I can have on c3550 only one SVI with IP from subnet, and when I create i.e. SVI10, clients from vlan11 can't be routed out. So is possible to create routed iface
[19:19]<dracf>for both vlans ?
[19:20]<bsdrgdjg>sorry, too much text to read and im actually semi-working
[19:21]<fjzvxnz>oh another reason i think it's a fake: it doesn't autonegotiate properly. If i have something connected to it in autoneg mode it'll drop packets like a sonofabitch. I have to lock the interface to 10 full on both sides in order to get a decent (>1MBps) throughput.
[19:23]<gndyvx>majkl: don't bridge, either use two interfaces on the device
[19:23]<gndyvx>majkl: or have a host that supports dot1q
[19:24]<msxjv>sup
[19:26]<zzwffzdnz>supp
[19:28]<msxjv>heh, have 4 days of personal time and 2 weeks of vacation
[19:28]<msxjv>going to be a nice departure from here
[19:29]<msxjv>sup dudes I'm sick for 4 days
[19:29]<gndyvx>well the car is going into the shop on tuesday
[19:29]<rfv>dshot: can I be sick for 4 days too?
[19:29]<rfv>starting Monday?
[19:29]<rfv>;-)
[19:29]<dracf>nemith: I have client1(vlan10) with 192.168.1.10/24 and client2(vlan11) with 192.168.1.11/24. They are somewhere in network behind my c3550. To c3550 only comes trunk with vlan10,11. To these days clients had different IP subnet, so on c3550 was SVI10 and SVI11 routed ifaces (i.e. 192.168.1.1/24, 192.168.2.1/24 and cliets were too from 1.0/24 and 2.0/24). But now clients need to have same IP subnet, but I can't to change L2 vlan topology
[19:29]<msxjv>alt, surely
[19:30]<gndyvx>majkl: ah, you are going backwards my friend
[19:30]<dracf>nemith: so one L3 topology over two vlans, so I need to have on c3550-12G routed iface which could be accessed from both vlans
[19:30]<gndyvx>change the vlan topology
[19:31]<dracf>nemith: I can't, access layer is not in my hands..
[19:31]<gndyvx>majkl: may i ask whu?
[19:31]<dzzc1lyvn>lol
[19:31]<dzzc1lyvn>a new way to spell why
[19:31]<dzzc1lyvn>whu....
[19:31]<msxjv>so, you want to change vlans or expand the addressing of the one particular vlan that they are all supposed to be merged into, yet you can't change the vlan?
[19:32]<gndyvx>majkl: this is against everything i stand for
[19:32]<gndyvx>but you can bridge the vlans together or use a crossover
[19:32]<gndyvx>broadcasts will be sent down trunks twice
[19:32]<msxjv>i.e. someone changes the access vlan's on the 'access layer' you don't have any control of, but right now you still get 10,11 on that trunk?
[19:32]<msxjv>sounds like a broken ass process
[19:33]<gndyvx>traffic will take the complete wrong route
[19:33]<gndyvx>STP loops are very possible
[19:33]<gndyvx>(expecially with PVST)
[19:33]<msxjv>impossible, I have designed my network to be loop free! ( lol )
[19:33]<gndyvx>dshot: heh
[19:33]<msxjv>sorry, was doing an impression
[19:33]<[mzvzyw]>ah hah, these fake WIC's are the ones with the crappy ass screws that strip really easily
[19:33]<gndyvx>dshot: "How i can i disable STP.. I don't have loops so i don't need it"
[19:34]<msxjv>haha
[19:34]<gndyvx>[Matrix]: i've broken the head off of official cisco wic's

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