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[19:47]<[mzvzyw]>that bad WIC we pulled from the PTP router was a fake too
[19:47]<fjzvxnz>yeah. very. no more exiting config mode to do meaningless tasks. :D
[19:47]<vz2ufzzzsz>show mm that
[19:47]<vz2ufzzzsz>he will die
[19:47]<msxjv>all this fake talk, where are people getting the fake gear.... ebay'd?
[19:47]<vz2ufzzzsz>then goto da boss and bitch at him for buying his crap from ebay.. lol
[19:47]<vz2ufzzzsz>yippers
[19:48]<vz2ufzzzsz>in the US even, not even from the suspicious chinese sellers
[19:48]<msxjv>Buy from the Chinese, sell in bulk
[19:48]<vz2ufzzzsz>WIC-1DSU-T1 - $5 "Hong Kong"
[19:48]<vz2ufzzzsz>heh
[19:48]<msxjv>lol
[19:48]<fjzvxnz>yeah i think i'll pass
[19:48]<msxjv>they have V2's?
[19:48]<msxjv>( lol )
[19:49]<vz2ufzzzsz>heh
[19:49]<msxjv>get my swap meet on
[19:49]<fjzvxnz>ebay used to be a great place to get cisco gear
[19:49]<rrggjg2rff>Hello all. I have a very simple question and I'm not understanding the book that I'm reading. I want to enable fair-queue on a PPP Multilink (4 T1s).
[19:49]<msxjv>how much for the gucci handbag and the WIC-1DSU-T1?
[19:49]<msxjv>can I work a deal?
[19:50]<rrggjg2rff>The book says it's not enabled by default. Does that mean it can't be used? Or that it's generally discouraged? Unreliable? Useless? I'm not sure how to interpret that.
[19:50]<rrggjg2rff>The routers are two 7204 VXR's.
[19:50]<vz2ufzzzsz>if you see "no fair queue" then its not enables
[19:50]<vz2ufzzzsz>enabled
[19:50]<vz2ufzzzsz>you just need to type in "fair-queue" and your good to go
[19:50]<msxjv>yep
[19:51]<msxjv>Not enabled by default means that there are lots of queueing mechanisms
[19:51]<rrggjg2rff>The 4 T1's have no fair-queue, the multilink says its policy is fifo.
[19:51]<rrggjg2rff>Ah, ok.
[19:51]<msxjv>FIFO is used on certain speeds
[19:51]<fjzvxnz>LOL, and that vintage johnnie walker bottle too... how much for that?
[19:51]<msxjv>etc
[19:51]<vz2ufzzzsz>look, it even shows the fake box
[19:51]<vz2ufzzzsz>http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Cisco-WIC-1DSU-T1-on-sale_W0QQitemZ9731046424QQcategoryZ67322QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[19:51]<rrggjg2rff>Will do. If my client drops, we can assume that it doesn't work the way we think it should :-)
[19:51]<msxjv>cannonball: Get the DQoS book
[19:52]<msxjv>explains things well
[19:52]<gndyvx>acutally End to End QoS is more enterprise driven
[19:53]<rrggjg2rff>I've only got the "Cisco IOS Configuration Fundamentals". Nothing on QOS, I'll go look for it.
[19:53]<vz2ufzzzsz>heres teh v2... fake box and all
[19:53]<vz2ufzzzsz>http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-QTY-1-Cisco-WIC-1DSU-T1-V2-on-sale-DSU_W0QQitemZ9731036557QQcategoryZ67322QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[19:53]<msxjv>it isn't a bad book either from what I could tell, but I think from scratch the Odom book is pretty solid
[19:54]<gndyvx>why cant they counterfit a damn 3350 and sell it for 100 bucks
[19:54]<vz2ufzzzsz>hahaha
[19:54]<[mzvzyw]>lol
[19:54]<fjzvxnz>there are counterfiet 3550s out there
[19:54]<vz2ufzzzsz>impressive
[19:54]<fjzvxnz>they just sell for as much as the originals :(
[19:54]<vz2ufzzzsz>LOL
[19:54]<bsdrgdjg>:(
[19:54]<bsdrgdjg>i want a counterfeit 3550
[19:55]<vz2ufzzzsz>start making them
[19:55]<bsdrgdjg>so heres a good question
[19:55]<bsdrgdjg>if they can make fake 3550s, why can they not make a decent emulator?
[19:56]<gndyvx>for what?
[19:56]<msxjv>ZSNES dude
[19:56]<msxjv>great emulator
[19:56]<vz2ufzzzsz>lol
[19:56]<2zdsnpzz>;)
[19:56]<bsdrgdjg>lol
[19:56]<bsdrgdjg>zsnes is awesome
[19:56]<vz2ufzzzsz>yes, thats true
[19:56]<bsdrgdjg>combined with zbattle
[19:56]<[mzvzyw]>Router emulator is one thing.. but it might be somewhat impractical to emulate something with 24/48 ports on it.
[19:57]<fjzvxnz>yeah, you'd have to emulate an ASIC in software
[19:57]<fjzvxnz>that isn't very easy
[19:57]<bsdrgdjg>true enough
[19:58]<[mzvzyw]>surprised they can do the 7200 actually
[19:58]<[mzvzyw]>lots of ASICs in there
[19:58]<fjzvxnz>the 7200 is basically a mips PC with some fancy boards connected
[19:58]<fjzvxnz>i think the non-VXR have a PCI backplane.
[19:58]<[mzvzyw]>hah, turn off CEF/Flow then
[19:58]<zzwffzdnz>a 7940 ip phone for 125 euro's is that expensive?
[19:59]<msxjv>no idea actually
[19:59]<[mzvzyw]>the process switching is still slow as crap in a 7200. Lots of ASICs make the high speeds possibel
[19:59]<msxjv>froogle it maybe
[19:59]<gndyvx>cef isn't asics
[20:00]<gndyvx>and there are a lot of NPE's for the 7200 ranging from slow to very fast
[20:01]<[mzvzyw]>I've seen multiple references to the "CEF ASIC" in Cisco documentation
[20:01]<gndyvx>ah, so it can be offloaded to an asic
[20:01]<[mzvzyw]>it's cached on ASICs
[20:02]<[mzvzyw]>that's how it's switched at line speed, methins
[20:02]<[mzvzyw]>methinks
[20:02]<gndyvx>yeah, for certain hardware
[20:02]<[mzvzyw]>faster NPE = faster ASIC's and CPU
[20:02]<gndyvx>no
[20:02]<gndyvx>I don't think there is many asics in a NPE
[20:02]<gndyvx>you are right about the CPU
[20:03]<jygc>pretty much is done in software in NPEs
[20:03]<gndyvx>most routers
[20:03]<jygc>emulating a Sup will be harder :-)
[20:03]<gndyvx>except for 7600 and above
[20:04]<gndyvx>[Matrix]: CEF is hardware as in it allows the packet to flow input rign to output ring
[20:04]<bsdrgdjg>this linux box isnt recognizing the pcmcia nic :(
[20:05]<[mzvzyw]>right, which requires an L3 switching ASIC
[20:08]<fjzvxnz>BSDaemon: is it cardbus or a PC card?
[20:08]<ald>is the pcmcia service running?
[20:08]<vz2ufzzzsz>is it plugged in?

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