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[07:34]<sazdn>but you can drink @19
[07:34]<sazdn>18 in PQ, PEI and ALBERTA
[07:34]<qwnff>FBH^: 19 some places, heh
[07:35]<sazdn>we used to go to quebec city to get trashed
[07:35]<sazdn>id get so drunk i would forget all french and not know wtf i was doing
[07:36]<sazdn>i came back from quebec once with blonde hair
[07:36]<sazdn>i still dont know how that happened
[07:36]<[mzvzyw_]>When I'm drunk the only French I can muster is "Ca va!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[07:37]<sazdn>donnez moi une biere!
[07:37]<sazdn>SEE FOOD PLATE
[07:37]<msxjv>heh
[07:37]<[mzvzyw_]>later man
[07:38]<cuvyncjmnz>http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html
[07:38]<cuvyncjmnz>hahahahahaha
[07:40]<srd-i-rd>meh
[07:41]<[mzvzyw_]>Umm..
[07:41]<[mzvzyw_]>That's scary.
[07:41]<cuvyncjmnz>LOL!
[07:42]<[mzvzyw_]>Dunno, that'd be scary on most networks I've dealt with
[07:42]<[mzvzyw_]>since that only leaves iBGP and EIGRP as your other candidates
[07:42]<sazdn>shhh
[07:42]<sazdn>he might be an ISIS man
[07:43]<srd-i-rd>ripv1!!
[07:43]<sazdn>too proprietary
[07:43]<srd-i-rd>isis is nice from a security standpoint
[07:43]<[mzvzyw_]>Every time someone uses IS-IS an angel loses its wings...
[07:44]<sazdn>vendorlock is an issue
[07:44]<[mzvzyw_]>BGP is a little resource intensive and EIGRP is proprietary, hence the scary comment.
[07:44]<sazdn>wouldnt the patent for EIGRP be running out soon
[07:45]<[mzvzyw_]>Does Cisco actually restrict other vendors from using EIGRP or do they just not support it because it's not a ratified standard?
[07:45]<sazdn>if its patented then they have 17 years ( i think)
[07:45]<sazdn>if its copywrited its 70+
[07:46]<sazdn>which could be infinity as long as disney is around
[07:48]<cuvyncjmnz>DEATH TO EIGRP!
[07:49]<sazdn>i wonder why its so proprietary
[07:49]<qwnff>because it's cisco :P
[07:49]<sazdn>ah here it is
[07:50]<sazdn>its covered by patents till 2014
[07:51]<[mzvzyw_]>We might actually be running Ipv6 by then
[07:51]<sazdn>igrp is the patent, eigrp is an extension of that
[07:52]<sazdn>(but you knew that)
[07:52]<[mzvzyw_]>Actually I would have guessed separate patents, but it probably doesn't matter
[07:53]<sazdn>you cant patent somthing thats already covered by a patent
[07:53]<sazdn>otherwise you could just keep changing somthing to keep it patented
[07:54]<[mzvzyw_]>depends how much overlap there is.
[07:54]<sazdn>well
[07:54]<sazdn>you can patent the changes
[07:54]<sazdn>but not anything that is common area
[07:55]<sazdn>so i imagine igrp comes free before eigrp
[07:55]<[mzvzyw_]>Like anyone will care. ;)
[07:55]<[mzvzyw_]>But yeah, it probably will
[07:56]<sazdn>unless
[07:56]<sazdn>the changes to EIGRP are considered somthing that anyone would have come up with
[07:56]<sazdn>(did i mention im going through 4 patent apps right now? heh)
[07:56]<[mzvzyw_]>That's a funny thought though.. all the vendors in 5 years rushing to incorporate IGRP into their products. lol
[07:57]<sazdn>8 yewars
[07:58]<[mzvzyw_]>Certain patents are a bunch of crap though
[07:58]<[mzvzyw_]>especially really vague ones
[07:58]<sazdn>do te do..
[07:59]<sazdn>cisco is gonna be pissed when they see our next patent app come out
[07:59]<gjsw>whysthat.
[07:59]<sazdn>they will either litigate us to death or aquire us heh
[07:59]<sazdn>i cant talk about it obviously
[08:00]<[mzvzyw_]>Still, I wonder how specific the EIGRP patent is.
[08:00]<[mzvzyw_]>Like, if I made a routing protocol that used similar metrics to EIGRP, I wonder if they'd sue me for patent infringement.
[08:01]<gjsw>probablly worded like: "A protocol capable of locking customers into a cisco solution for the forseeable future..."
[08:01]<[mzvzyw_]>lol
[08:01]<sazdn>heh
[08:01]<cuvyncjmnz>Sam-I-Am: you are a sadistic bastard, leaving that poor kid doing your job back at the uni!.
[08:02]<[mzvzyw_]>It's ok, FBH is Canadian.
[08:02]<sazdn>and you are a sadistic bastard cc for making these poor nerds actually thing there is a woman on irc
[08:02]<sazdn>think
[08:02]<gjsw>i wonder if those idiots at the patent trademark office would let me copyright "A Routing Protocol Better Than All The Others..." as to allow me to harass all new protocol developers =P
[08:03]<[mzvzyw_]>With the patent policy in this country, they probably would.
[08:03]<cuvyncjmnz>Scrye: ?!
[08:03]<cuvyncjmnz>Scrye: yes there is, and most of my friends don't think of me as a woman but a godess, bow down :P
[08:04]<sazdn>you just like the power trip
[08:04]<sazdn>of making more than most of the boys
[08:04]<sazdn>hell, i do it too heh
[08:04]<srd-i-rd>CutieCoder: eh?
[08:04]<gjsw>There are no women on the internet. Its a proven fact. =P
[08:04]<sazdn>and knowing more
[08:04]<cuvyncjmnz>Damn right I like the power trip ;)
[08:05]<sazdn>you couldnt even pull my bow back
[08:05]<sazdn>85 pound Left hand pull
[08:05]<cuvyncjmnz>Scrye: I may not, but I can press the trigger on my guns just fine... ;)
[08:05]<sazdn>but when i shoot you the neighbors dont hear it
[08:05]<cuvyncjmnz>especially when they are set to 0.85lbs ;)
[08:06]<[mzvzyw_]>I could use your bow.
[08:06]<cuvyncjmnz>Scrye: Who cares about not hearing, I get to shoot you 1000 yards away :P
[08:07]<[mzvzyw_]>My old compound was set to 105 lb. Was always fun shooting hay bales and having the arrows go all the way through, lol
[08:08]<cuvyncjmnz>Bow hunting is hard though
[08:08]<cuvyncjmnz>My grand-pa down in WV is amazing at it
[08:08]<sazdn>[Matrix_]: left handed
[08:09]<[mzvzyw_]>I'm switch handed, pretty sure I could do 85 with my left.
[08:09]<sazdn>im ambidextrous and i have a hard time with my right
[08:09]<[mzvzyw_]>I have a strong upper body
[08:10]<sazdn>i dont heh
[08:10]<[mzvzyw_]>but anyway
[08:10]<[mzvzyw_]>bow hunting isn't very hard with a bow that stiff

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