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[05:45]<lnusxr|rw>excuse my french ^^
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>to create the map, i was thinking about creating a tree
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>each node being a switch
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>well they look like a graph
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>stp work with trees
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>that's the link ^^
[05:46]<lnusxr|rw>of course
[05:47]<lnusxr|rw>mhm
[05:47]<lnusxr|rw>bad to hear...
[05:48]<lnusxr|rw>that's weird i've been working on stp for 7 weeks in 2005
[05:48]<lnusxr|rw>and i always thought it was tree based
[05:48]<qwnff>the "tree" in the protocol name might have something to do with that assumption
[05:49]<lnusxr|rw>lol
[05:49]<lnusxr|rw>thanks Qwell ^^
[05:50]<lnusxr|rw>ok so do you have any idea of how to create a map of a network ?
[05:50]<qwnff>visio?
[05:50]<lnusxr|rw>lol
[05:50]<srd-i-rd>moo.
[05:52]<dzzc1lyvn>omg
[05:52]<lnusxr|rw>i heard about a project in january 2005
[05:52]<dzzc1lyvn>I love Dwain Wade..
[05:52]<lnusxr|rw>a project of network mapping for cisco devices
[05:52]<lnusxr|rw>based on cdp
[05:52]<lnusxr|rw>it was free but complicated to install
[05:53]<lnusxr|rw>i can't remember the name if someone knows what i'm talking about
[05:53]<lnusxr|rw>medhi ?
[05:55]<fmnwvnz>what good are maps if they're accurate yet ugly?
[05:56]<qwnff>well, I imagine if you were ever stuck in a cave (with an ugly, yet accurate map), I'm sure you won't be complaining about it being ugly
[05:56]<qwnff>"Thank god I had this map!", you'd be saying.
[05:58]<qwnff>That isn't horrible
[05:59]<fjacmjwgq>dia?
[06:00]<fjacmjwgq>dia is a program sort of like visio but its terrible
[06:09]<wr2ggyw>why could anybody have set an mtu of 1522 on a gigabit interface with vlan encapsulation?
[06:10]<wr2ggyw>and wouldn't i have to set the same mtu on the receiving side?
[06:10]<fjzvxnz>habenix: 'cause the other side doesn't support jumbo frames?
[06:11]<wr2ggyw>the one side is a juniper bras and the other a cisco 3750 with dot1q enabled trunk link
[06:11]<wr2ggyw>what can you make of this?
[06:12]<fjzvxnz>unless the juniper is stupid/crippled, there shouldn't be a problem
[06:12]<wr2ggyw>an I am trying to move the link from the switch directly to a 7206vxr router but don't seem to have the option to turn on vlan encapsulation on my gigabit interface
[06:13]<wr2ggyw>do you think I would not need the mtu setting on the juniper?
[06:14]<fjzvxnz>i can't answer that -- i've never touched a juniper
[06:15]<wr2ggyw>what do you think about these things?
[06:15]<fjzvxnz>so let me get this straight
[06:15]<fjzvxnz>you want to hook the juniper direct to the 7200?
[06:16]<wr2ggyw>I don't want to do any changes on the juniper yet
[06:16]<wr2ggyw>therefore I have to perserve the vlan trunk link
[06:17]<wr2ggyw>therefore i need a vlan trunk link on the 7206
[06:17]<wr2ggyw>and I am wondering about the mtu 1522 setting on the juniper and am thinking about taking it out
[06:17]<fjzvxnz>on the 7206 you'd just configure separate subinterfaces for each vlan
[06:18]<cuvyncjmnz>7206... junk
[06:19]<ajfmysj>7206 are not junk
[06:19]<cuvyncjmnz>they are when you hit 2gbps
[06:19]<ajfmysj>with a NPEG1 or G2 they crank some packets and make great VPN aggs
[06:19]<cuvyncjmnz>They do make nice vpn aggs
[06:19]<ajfmysj>=) well yea 7609 or 12K is in your talks then
[06:19]<cuvyncjmnz>I got plenty of those ;)
[06:19]<cuvyncjmnz>7613's and 12ks ;)
[06:19]<cuvyncjmnz>let alone the brand new 15008s we got
[06:19]<fjzvxnz>i've never hit 2 gbps on any device :D
[06:19]<ajfmysj>very nice - I have a few 7609s for Video Transport
[06:20]<ajfmysj>we use sup720B's for our 10G Rings for Mpeg Video
[06:20]<ajfmysj>oh nice
[06:20]<cuvyncjmnz>Yup
[06:20]<wr2ggyw>coldiso: they crank packets when we hit 2gbps? or even before?
[06:20]<wr2ggyw>because that is the problem I am having right now
[06:21]<ajfmysj>which proc habenix ?
[06:21]<cuvyncjmnz>coldiso: video transport is fun
[06:21]<ajfmysj>Video is Great - PIM is a pile of fun but transcode and transrate devices are a headache.
[06:21]<cuvyncjmnz>coldiso: I've got to... divert some multicast streams a couple times :)
[06:21]<ajfmysj>Dealing with the providers is even worse
[06:21]<fjzvxnz>habenix: do you do a lot of nbar, inspection, and firewalling with that 7200?
[06:21]<fjzvxnz>'cause all of those things drain on the CPU
[06:21]<wr2ggyw> 7206VXR (NPE-G1) processor (revision A)
[06:22]<ajfmysj>habenix - what is it doing ? BGP?
[06:22]<cuvyncjmnz>coldiso: I'd rather deal with transcode/rate devices :P
[06:22]<mrxmjum>any one did PVLANs?
[06:22]<ajfmysj>CutieCoder: they are a lot of fun I will give you that. Plus its nice to be on the other side of the Conditional Access
[06:23]<cuvyncjmnz>dealing with providers is actually easy for me... I am god almighty and they must obey my ruling
[06:23]<wr2ggyw>noting fancy at all! 15% cpu, ospf just internally, some access lists, e1s and slower serial links, one ds3, 2 multilinks
[06:24]<ajfmysj>habenix - What IOS ?
[06:25]<wr2ggyw> 7200 Software (C7200-KBOOT-M), Version 12.2(15)B, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
[06:25]<mrxmjum>how to configure a port as promiscuous port in PVLAN?
[06:25]<wr2ggyw>might need a software upgrad3
[06:26]<fjzvxnz>habenix: that;s the boot ROM -- the IOS is different
[06:26]<wr2ggyw>IOS (tm) 7200 Software (C7200-IS-M), Version 12.3(1a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
[06:26]<ajfmysj>yea you need a upgrade
[06:26]<fjzvxnz>there you go
[06:26]<ajfmysj>early 12.3 was horrible with memory and bugs
[06:27]<wr2ggyw>I see
[06:27]<fjzvxnz>and yeah, i'd upgrade that to 12.4T.
[06:27]<ajfmysj>loather! zoinks murder
[06:27]<ajfmysj>run experimental or experimental
[06:27]<wr2ggyw>Do I get this software for free or do I have to buy it?
[06:27]<ajfmysj>habenix: if you don't have a contract it cost money
[06:27]<fjzvxnz>habenix: do you have a support contract with cisco?
[06:28]<ajfmysj>CutieCoder and I don't have that problem
[06:28]<wr2ggyw>I am not sure. This company is so confused here, they just don't remember if they have or not.
[06:28]<ajfmysj>do you have a SmartNet agreement on the Cisco router ?
[06:28]<fjzvxnz>then they probably do not, as it's a sizeable annual expense
[06:28]<ajfmysj>A maintenance contract

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