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[17:49]<vz2ufzzzsz>i used to use Avant, but ugh
[17:49]<bsdrgdjg>Kr0ntab: ah okay. ive never seen a screenshot of WM that wasnt all squares
[17:49]<gndyvx>tabularasa: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/
[17:49]<bsdrgdjg>looks like its pre-win3.1
[17:50]<kz0gvr2>check out http://linuxcruiser.netfirms.com
[17:50]<kz0gvr2>hehe
[17:50]<kz0gvr2>thats like... crazy old
[17:50]<vz2ufzzzsz>nemith: interesting.
[17:50]<kz0gvr2>back with Slackware 8.... 2.4 days
[17:50]<vz2ufzzzsz>very interesting
[17:50]<gndyvx>tabularasa: most of my websites open with FF, but the few internal apps (and windows update) open with IE inside of FF
[17:50]<gndyvx>works great
[17:51]<[mzvzyw_]>I lubs FreeBSD.
[17:51]<vz2ufzzzsz>i hate using 2 browsers
[17:51]<gndyvx>tabularasa: me too
[17:51]<gndyvx>tabularasa: I did the same thing, i used ie7 for a long time
[17:51]<gndyvx>then i found ie tab
[17:51]<[mzvzyw_]>Firefox seems slow to me too.
[17:51]<vz2ufzzzsz>its memory management sucks nuts
[17:52]<vz2ufzzzsz>thanks nemith
[17:52]<[mzvzyw_]>I click the IE icon, the app is instant. I click the Firefox icon, takes like 5 seconds.
[17:52]<[mzvzyw_]>kinda annoying.
[17:52]<bsdrgdjg>have you guys ever heard of TrueCrypt software?
[17:53]<kz0gvr2>BSDaemon, yeah.
[17:54]<bsdrgdjg>I'm listening to a podcast by SecurityNow ( www.grc.com/securitynow.htm ), and they are talking about it. With VERY high praise
[17:54]<fjsvnf>gibson is a moron
[17:54]<vzgfrgg_>BSDaemon, take a grain of salt, gibson is a total idiot
[17:55]<gndyvx>trelane_: thanks
[17:55]<bsdrgdjg>I can tell, but I still like their podcasts.
[17:55]<vzgfrgg_>nemith, no worries
[17:55]<kz0gvr2>he can be a bit of an alarmist at times.
[17:55]<vzgfrgg_>BSDaemon, basically you're safe so long as you take everything gibson recommends and do exactly the opposite.
[17:55]<bsdrgdjg>lol
[17:55]<vzgfrgg_>Kr0ntab, a bit? the 13 year old ddos article where he lists hosts and does no forensics to speak of comes to mind
[17:55]<bsdrgdjg>do you guys know of any other network related podcasts?
[17:55]<kz0gvr2>hehe
[17:55]<gndyvx>[Matrix_]: http://www.mrtech.com/news/messages/4511.html
[17:56]<vzgfrgg_>Kr0ntab, I had several of those machines subsequently seized for other matters and 10 arrests were made. Steve g
[17:56]<vzgfrgg_>Steve Gibson: 0
[17:56]<vzgfrgg_>Andrew Kirch: 10
[17:56]<vzgfrgg_>I win.
[17:56]<vzgfrgg_>old stevo wasn't even interested, I offered to share my information wtih him despite the fact that it was his site getting packeted flat.
[17:57]<fjsvnf>BSDaemon: sure we do
[17:57]<fjsvnf>http://newsroom.cisco.com/data/syndication/rss2/News_Podcast_20.xml
[17:58]<fjsvnf>and the data centre http://www.cisco.com/cdc_content_elements/podcast/index.shtml
[17:58]<bsdrgdjg>cool, thanks.
[17:58]<vz2ufzzzsz>damn nemith: totally badass plugin
[17:58]<bsdrgdjg>now i just have to figure out how to add those in itunes... still getting used to this mac
[17:59]<cuvyncjmnz>Packetting is boring...
[17:59]<cuvyncjmnz>industrial espionnage is
[17:59]<cuvyncjmnz>fun
[17:59]<fjsvnf>BSDaemon: you said you got a xfce desktop. How do you run iTunes?
[17:59]<bsdrgdjg>my other machine is mac
[18:00]<bsdrgdjg>its Sam-I-Ams old machine, he likes mac i guess
[18:00]<bsdrgdjg>im using it until i get a sexy lcd for my unix box
[18:02]<bsdrgdjg>I personally like Diggnation's podcasts :D
[18:02]<bsdrgdjg>Kevin Rose is awesome
[18:02]<gndyvx>tabularasa: isn't it though?
[18:03]<fjsvnf>nemith: speaking of podcasts.. any progress? ;)
[18:03]<gndyvx>postel: i've been too busy
[18:03]<fjsvnf>:/
[18:03]<bsdrgdjg>What were you podcasting, nemith?
[18:03]<gndyvx>and too poor
[18:04]<gndyvx>I need at least a condenser mic
[18:04]<kz0gvr2>BSDaemon, have you looked at DAAPD?
[18:04]<bsdrgdjg>nope
[18:04]<gndyvx>which i've been meaning to get anyway... I want my own recording studio :)
[18:04]<kz0gvr2>http://www.deleet.de/projekte/daap/daapd/
[18:05]<kz0gvr2>I dont have an iPOD... but... I've heard good things about it.
[18:05]<bsdrgdjg>hmm
[18:05]<bsdrgdjg> i dont know anything about this stuff

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