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[21:59]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>cured ham is ham that's stuck in a salt brine for a week, then salted and cured for six months or so
[21:59]<bsdrgdjg>its like the funny look i got when i asked somebody where the nearest bank machine was.
[21:59]<gndyvx>o-: right since you can pat udp just as easy as TCP
[21:59]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>o-: only reason is in networks where you have a lot of congestion and UDP packets are consistently dropped
[21:59]<gndyvx>BSDaemon: deposting some 53-byte cells are you?
[21:59]<bsdrgdjg>bank machine... you know... the machine you put your card in and you get money?
[22:00]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>so IKE over UDP is probably safe in 99% of installations
[22:00]<j->i see
[22:00]<gndyvx>loather-work: but the encapsulated tcp should take care of that still
[22:00]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>that's right, i forgot about that.
[22:00]<bsdrgdjg>they are like "oh, ahyuck, you must be talkin bowt an ai-tee-amm!"
[22:00]<gndyvx>really it's in cases were udp may be blocked
[22:04]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>yeah, network nazis
[22:06]<bsdrgdjg>http://www.cathartik.com/crap/office.jpg
[22:06]<bsdrgdjg>the view from my desk :D
[22:08]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>haha
[22:08]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>want some maple syrup with that?
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>:)
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>mmm
[22:10]<bsdrgdjg>maple syrup
[22:11]<gndyvx>BSDaemon: looser
[22:16]<nj22yn>HSRP vs VRRP, who wins ? VRRP can only have 1 backup router ? HSRP can have multiple standby routers
[22:19]<gndyvx>damned topic limit
[22:21]<bsdrgdjg>i wish i knew where the colour printer was
[22:22]<bsdrgdjg>i want to print the "go oilers go" picture i made to put in my window
[22:22]<rnnyn>nemith, you can gzip+base64
[22:22]<gndyvx>heh
[22:22]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>tinyurl to the rescue
[22:33]<bsdrgdjg>you all smell
[22:35]<sxrmns>At least we don't smell like canadians ;)
[22:35]<dzzc1lyvn>BSDaemon: you're a scurvy bilge rat
[22:36]<bsdrgdjg>hah
[22:39]<msxjv>nice flag
[22:39]<bsdrgdjg>i know
[22:39]<msxjv>usually we only let olympic ice skating Canadians across, but you must have some other talent =P
[22:40]<jeeej>to be admitted to the US, a Canadian must be dumb enough to want to move here
[22:40]<bsdrgdjg>true
[22:40]<bsdrgdjg>i must be guilty of that
[22:40]<jeeej>too bad they won't let us trade; I'd happily trade my US citizenship for Canadian
[22:41]<[mzvzyw]>Yeah, our country sucks. It won't be long before the mexican's start trying to get back into Mexico.
[22:41]<jeeej>why do you think we're building a wall?
[22:41]<jeeej>to keep them out... yeah right
[22:41]<jeeej>berlin had a wall
[22:41]<sazdn>im an american spy
[22:42]<sazdn>you damned canadians are up to no good
[22:42]<[mzvzyw]>Once all the mexican's get here, I think they're going to realize that they just don't like each other.
[22:42]<[mzvzyw]>and that the poor just kinda follow them around.
[22:42]<[mzvzyw]>heh, I'm so evil today
[22:44]<msxjv>I say we take over Mexico
[22:44]<msxjv>I want some nice beachfront property
[22:44]<msxjv>maybe the Iraqi army will assist us
[22:46]<jeeej>mexico already invaded the us but nobody noticed
[22:47]<[mzvzyw]>Walmart's stock prices noticed.
[22:48]<[mzvzyw]>Must be some law that says mexican immigrants will show at Walmart, and only Walmart.
[22:48]<[mzvzyw]>s/show/shop
[22:48]<msxjv>Walmart is a disease
[22:49]<msxjv>some places, it's genuinely the only thing around and it's pretty decent
[22:49]<msxjv>a lot of places though, it's a shithole
[22:49]<jeeej>walmart steals from the community
[22:49]<jeeej>their employees are on public assistance; we pay the rest of their wages
[22:50]<msxjv>I can usually tell how nice an area is by looking at the fast food places
[22:50]<msxjv>if the Mexicans are working it 24x7, the place sucks shit ( usually ), if high school kids are working it.. usually pretty clean area
[22:51]<msxjv>now there are high class areas where that doesn't apply as much
[22:52]<msxjv>what used to be side jobs or part-time jobs for our youth and school-going folk, etc are now careers for the influxees
[22:53]<msxjv>personally, I think there should be a tax break for businesses to hire part-time college students
[22:53]<msxjv>keep a quota on that
[22:54]<jeeej>I'd like to see the law against hiring illegals enforced
[22:55]<jeeej>the law prescribes heavy fines for hiring illegals, but nobody ever gets fined
[22:55]<msxjv>Clinton era, moreso, Bush era almost none
[22:55]<msxjv>from the statistics
[22:55]<msxjv>but both eras, laughingly small amounts
[22:56]<msxjv>I would love to hear someone address the issue of how the illegals use so much govt. services more than they pay in or generate in revenue for coporations
[22:56]<msxjv>some pretty dire economic statistics on that
[22:57]<jeeej>it's theft, the corps are paying them low wages and we pay the rest
[22:57]<jeeej>the corps are stealing from us
[22:57]<msxjv>there's stealing by everyone but the middle class American
[22:59]<msxjv>I'd like to see subsidized farming go bye bye
[22:59]<msxjv>there aren't any family farms
[22:59]<msxjv>they're all large corps
[23:06]<msxjv>heh, I wonder how few of these big ass trucks with contractor business logos on them I'd see if they enforced the hiring law
[23:06]<msxjv>general contracting must be one of the most common jobs
[23:06]<msxjv>it's all I see around here
[23:09]<[mzvzyw]>gonna see if I can win me some patch cables here in a sec.
[23:09]<msxjv>lol, county fair?
[23:09]<[mzvzyw]>ebay style
[23:09]<[mzvzyw]>last minute bidding for teh win
[23:10]<msxjv>we have some ridiculous budget supposedly for wiring
[23:10]<fmnwvnz>patch cables ftw
[23:10]<msxjv>$1700 a month
[23:10]<msxjv>or something
[23:10]<[mzvzyw]>:O
[23:10]<msxjv>however, I really don't like the reimbursement process
[23:10]<msxjv>not inclined to go drop dough
[23:10]<[mzvzyw]>ahh, I love outbidding people with 15 seconds left
[23:10]<msxjv>sniped
[23:11]<[mzvzyw]>dammit, I got sniped.. bastards
[23:11]<[mzvzyw]>http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=9733891312
[23:11]<fmnwvnz><OtherEbayBidder> ahh, I love outbidding people with 1 second left

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