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[20:40]<sgnzcm_bzsvzzm>of course, I kept it spotless
[20:40]<fjacmjwg>tmbg, because its a 501 and from what i understand the 7.x doesn't support the 501
[20:40]<ald>the M1A is such a smooth rifle, a real joy to shoot.
[20:40]<cuvyncjmnz>cpm: my brother got me a Sig Sauer P229 (chambered in 40 mag) for my b/day :)
[20:41]<cuvyncjmnz>Love that thing
[20:41]<cuvyncjmnz>never had to customize it
[20:42]<vd2r>hrm. may have to upgrade ram or something.
[20:45]<vd2r>that 10fp-le2 when I google it is cheap, like $1000. did you have yours accurized or something?
[20:46]<ald>that's like 1K to start
[20:46]<ald>it's gets pricey quick.
[20:46]<ald>you can spend many $k on optics alone.
[20:46]<vd2r>yeah I don't doubt it, but 12k is a big jump!
[20:47]<vd2r>lock: yeah, takes a 515 at least :(
[20:47]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>so, what exactly is the difference between 515 and 515E?
[20:47]<fjacmjwg>the 6.3 has everytyhing i need, that allows me to do fixup pptp
[20:47]<cuvyncjmnz>It gets pretty pricey... I paid my 10FP-LE2 only 650$
[20:47]<fjacmjwg>and its a small place so i doubt it would lack any other features they would need
[20:47]<vd2r>I hate pix code < 7.0. soooo much more user friendly in 7.x
[20:48]<vz2ufzzzsz>thats for sure
[20:48]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>still no tab completion :(
[20:48]<cuvyncjmnz>It's the optics and barrel work that got pricey
[20:48]<fjacmjwg>7.x is more like cisco ios? tab completion and all that?
[20:48]<fjacmjwg>still lacks it, out
[20:48]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>more like IOS, yes, but still lacking in a few areas
[20:48]<fjacmjwg>yeah pix os is annoying compared to ios
[20:49]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>that's a kind way of putting it :D
[20:49]<cuvyncjmnz>but god bless accutrigger
[20:49]<cuvyncjmnz>cpm: that's optimized to the best I could
[20:50]<cuvyncjmnz>cpm: now, my AR-15 is a different story ;)
[20:50]<ald>there's no end to what you can spend on an AR either :)
[20:50]<cuvyncjmnz>None!
[20:50]<cuvyncjmnz>I spend about 34k in 5 years on it
[20:52]<bsdrgdjg>lalala
[20:52]<vz2ufzzzsz>at least the "?" doesnt suck in 7.x
[20:52]<ald>I had a very nice AR upper, built out on a Rockriver reciever, but it went to Afganistan with a friends son.
[20:52]<[mzvzyw]>hah, finally found it. http://www.leethax.us/jj/cwptarget.jpg
[20:53]<ald>nice
[20:53]<[mzvzyw]>CWP qualification target using a Keltec P32. 2" barrel. :-p
[20:53]<bsdrgdjg>whatever that mean
[20:53]<bsdrgdjg>s
[20:54]<vz2ufzzzsz>leethax.us... heh
[20:54]<vd2r>CutieCoder: my coworker got an ar-15 for $750. you got robbed!
[20:54]<[mzvzyw]>http://www.leethax.us/jj/keltec.jpg <-- The mouse gun itself
[20:55]<ald>I say very nice. IT was for what it was. A good heavy wilson chromed 16.2" barrel, a "proper" bolt and carrier, a few ti firing pins, (spares) and an Aimpoint on the main rail, and a holo on the side rail
[20:55]<ald>maybe I'll see it again, maybe not. It's okay.
[20:57]<p1nw>hmmm
[20:57]<p1nw>unless they are BFGs
[20:57]<ald>http://ferret50.com/graphics/photos/404023.jpg
[20:57]<ald>BFG
[21:03]<mzgsxvz>cpm: , [Matrix]: what are you using it for? troubleshooting?
[21:03]<msxjv>lol
[21:03]<msxjv>affirmative, we have gun nuts here
[21:04]<cuvyncjmnz>tmbg: haha, no, I customized the fuck out of it
[21:04]<msxjv>I have to ask, what does one do with an AR-15, go to the shooting range and hamburgerize shit?
[21:04]<cuvyncjmnz>tmbg: let alone the TWS-X20 scope ;)
[21:05]<ald>dshot, that's a fair question.
[21:05]<msxjv>I'm not a gun duder, so I'm asking
[21:05]<ald>yes
[21:05]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>well, at its most basic level, it's illegal to own fully-automatic weapons. So, most people have their ARs single-shot only.
[21:05]<mzgsxvz>He is what I use daily : http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/wildfire/closed.jpg
[21:06]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>they're extremely accurate. so, they're great for distance shooting.
[21:06]<ald>going to an 'informal' range, and trying to 'lift' a mntdew can up off the ground with one shot, and hit it in the air with the second, can keep you focused most fo the afternoon also.
[21:06]<mzgsxvz>s/he/here
[21:06]<cuvyncjmnz>loather: well, it all depends, automatic weapons are illegal (so is burst) if you do not have the proper permits
[21:06]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>yeah, you can get the paperwork done to actually own fully automatic weapons
[21:06]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>but for all intents and purposes it's illegal
[21:07]<nj22yn>heya =)
[21:07]<msxjv>doesn't really stop people, I'm guessing
[21:07]<cuvyncjmnz>but the ATFE is very strict about issuing permits, let alone the security checks
[21:08]<cuvyncjmnz>dshot: no it doesn't, but automatic weapons suck in a certain way... I beleive 1 shot 1 kill is the best way to go
[21:08]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>it involves talking to your local sherriff, background checks way up the ass, six months of waiting while BATF looks at your request .. it's almost not even worth owning them
[21:08]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>oh yeah, and it's a lot of money, too
[21:08]<cuvyncjmnz>shitloads
[21:08]<msxjv>ahh, yeah, must be why an old coworker of mine was pretty keyed up about the sherrif living next door and being 'buds' with him
[21:09]<cuvyncjmnz>lol
[21:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>i looked into it when I was living in VA
[21:09]<cuvyncjmnz>VA is shitty about that
[21:09]<cuvyncjmnz>just because of DC\
[21:09]<msxjv>What's a good first gun to own for learning to shoot?
[21:09]<cuvyncjmnz>MD was a lot less strict
[21:09]<nj22yn>why would a Cat 3548XL switch i have, broadcast only certain packets out on all interfaces ?
[21:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>dshot: handgun or rifle?
[21:09]<nj22yn>dhsot: rifle or pistol/revolver ?
[21:09]<msxjv>handgun
[21:09]<cuvyncjmnz>dshot: handgun? assault rifle? sniper rifle?
[21:09]<msxjv>haha
[21:09]<nj22yn>GLock ?
[21:10]<cuvyncjmnz>Glock sucks
[21:10]<nj22yn>Desert Eagle .50 ?
[21:10]<msxjv>sounds rough
[21:10]<cuvyncjmnz>Nobbie: pointless
[21:10]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>i'd go with a 9mm if you're looking for an automatic handgun, or a .38 if a revolver.
[21:10]<nj22yn>semi anti-aircraft handgun
[21:10]<mzgsxvz>Nobbie: what do you mean by" broadcast" ?
[21:10]<cuvyncjmnz>dshot: a Sig Sauer P226 / P229 are pretty good
[21:10]<cuvyncjmnz>dshot: There's also the Walther P99 that's excellent
[21:10]<nj22yn>dshot: UZI is your friend
[21:11]<msxjv>porcelain uzi, black duffle bag, blueblockers and a trenchcoat bro
[21:11]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>glock model 17 is also a good pistol, albeit a bit expensive.
[21:11]<cuvyncjmnz>dshot: you might want to look at Springfield armory for 1911/1991 (45 ACP)

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