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[18:46]<gndyvx>+check it out
[18:46]<gndyvx>+it is made to collect configs from devices
[18:47]<gndyvx>+but it also comes with a expect script called clogin
[18:47]<gndyvx>+which you can use to push out settings to a device
[18:47]<mjlnd>+tabularasa: i'd suggest using "rancid"
[18:47]<gndyvx>+BSDaemon: come to denver.. i'll make fun of your accent and then we'll get drunk
[18:47]<[mzvzyw]>+nemith: Sounds cool, I'll try it out
[18:47]<[mzvzyw]>+lol
[18:48]<ald>+yeah, it's be fun to make fun of BSDaemon's accent and see him get drunk
[18:48]<bsdrgdjg>-haha nemith thatd be fun. but its not till september :(
[18:48]<mjlnd>+clogin -c " conf t \n snmp-community public " ` list-routers `
[18:48]<gndyvx>+exactly
[18:48]<bsdrgdjg>-haha yeah, and id make fun of your accent too :)
[18:48]<ald>+great!
[18:49]<ald>+all the better
[18:49]<scgffgvjg>-somebody of brazil ?
[18:49]<bsdrgdjg>-no
[18:49]<bsdrgdjg>-nemith: mentioned the WiSM to the boss, he's right, it's hard to justify at this point, but just wait until we have to do an IOS update or global configuration change :P
[18:50]<bsdrgdjg>-But he liked it... just not the price tag
[18:50]<gndyvx>+right
[18:50]<gndyvx>+they are friggen expensive
[18:50]<bsdrgdjg>-what was the smaller units called?
[18:50]<bsdrgdjg>-were*
[18:51]<ansc>-two switchs connected to each other via portchan used stp is pvst. when switching on switch1 from pvst to rapid-pvst the switch dies, why? :-)
[18:51]<ansc>-cat3560
[18:51]<gndyvx>+BSDaemon: Wireless controllers
[18:51]<bsdrgdjg>-what are they worth, do you know?
[18:51]<dzzc1lyvn>+jesk recalculation...
[18:51]<gndyvx>+BSDaemon: they are comming out with a 3750 switch with a wireless controller built in
[18:51]<sazdn>+why?
[18:52]<bsdrgdjg>-For people who dont have the $$ for a 6500 + WiSM
[18:52]<bsdrgdjg>-:P
[18:54]<ald>+so you can easily jump from secured fibre to wireless!
[18:54]<gndyvx>+BSDaemon: don't currently have a 6k?
[18:54]<bsdrgdjg>-cisco 4404
[18:54]<bsdrgdjg>-nemith: sure WE do
[18:54]<ansc>-Dark3Lite: over minutes?
[18:54]<bsdrgdjg>-Scrye asked why, i answered.
[18:54]<gndyvx>+BSDaemon: 34,995 list
[18:55]<bsdrgdjg>-fuck that.
[18:55]<bsdrgdjg>-if were gonna blow money itd be on the wism
[18:55]<gndyvx>+right
[18:55]<gndyvx>+i wish thier model scaled a litte more
[18:56]<bsdrgdjg>-ah well. its nice to know that it exists
[18:56]<gndyvx>+then you'd need the software if you wanted to manage more than one controller
[18:56]<gndyvx>+man this shit is epensive
[18:56]<gndyvx>+expensive
[18:57]<gndyvx>+what they need to do is lower the price of the ap's
[18:57]<gndyvx>+to like 50 bucks
[18:57]<bsdrgdjg>-so yeah, im doing the cisco wireless LAN fundamentals, and then the cisco wireless LAN advanced topics courses
[18:57]<bsdrgdjg>-yeah, people will buy their unified solution crap if the APs didnt cost so much
[18:57]<gndyvx>+yeah
[18:57]<gndyvx>+we can get aruba AP's for like 100 bucks a pop
[18:58]<sazdn>+um
[18:58]<bsdrgdjg>-so these two courses together go towards the cisco advanced wireless lan designer, and field specialist
[18:58]<sazdn>+the easy answer there is that is linksys' market
[18:58]<sazdn>+is that it is
[18:59]<gndyvx>+i meant for controller based
[18:59]<bsdrgdjg>-Scrye: it should scale... 5 APs is $150 each, 200 APs is $50 each. makes sense to me
[19:01]<bsdrgdjg>-FUCK OFF CISCO QUIT SENDING ME EMAILS TEASING ME ABOUT NETWORKERS 2006
[19:01]<bsdrgdjg>-:(
[19:01]<gndyvx>+hehe
[19:01]<[mzvzyw]>+yeah, I get them too. ;;
[19:01]<bsdrgdjg>-its so worth going
[19:01]<bsdrgdjg>-i bet ill be going next year
[19:01]<[mzvzyw]>+I sent my manager one and he laughed at me. ;;
[19:01]<gndyvx>+well it is really too damned expensive
[19:01]<gndyvx>+imho
[19:02]<bsdrgdjg>-how much is it again? i forget
[19:04]<bsdrgdjg>-man scp with spaces in the filenames are a bitch
[19:05]<vwcd>+scp sucks pretty hard.
[19:05]<vwcd>+sftp might be slightly easier -- it sucks too, just differently.
[19:05]<bsdrgdjg>-scp chris@blah:"/home/chris/here\ is\ a\ file\ with\ spaces\ -\ and\ it\ sucks" /Users/chris/Music
[19:08]<ald>+spaces in filenames suck.
[19:08]<wwznxnrm>-long live underscores :p
[19:08]<ald>+hear hear!
[19:09]<ald>+except the expert codes who wrote asterisk,, , actually use underscores for variables
[19:09]<bsdrgdjg>-well its actually a mounted ntfs partition im copying from... so its bound to have spaces
[19:09]<ald>+ _something = $something
[19:10]<vz2ufzzzsz>-what platform is rancid?
[19:10]<vwcd>+unix-ish.
[19:10]<ald>+ *nix
[19:10]<gndyvx>+expect
[19:10]<vz2ufzzzsz>-doh... i need to install vmware on this laptop
[19:10]<vwcd>+should work on win32 with all the right pieces, though i doubt anyone would.
[19:11]<ald>+yeah, could prolly get it working with Cygwin
[19:11]<gndyvx>+i like spaces
[19:12]<gndyvx>+i think they belong in filenames
[19:12]<sazdn>+god, i need to redesign my whole internal network
[19:12]<ald>+I do to, have had to for about 7 years now.
[19:12]<ald>+:)
[19:12]<cuvyncjmnz>+oi oi :)
[19:12]<sazdn>+the internal corporate network of an ISP is like a carpenters home
[19:12]<vwcd>+with enough work you might get it to work without cygwin, using expect-win32 and such. *shudder*
[19:12]<sazdn>+never finished
[19:13]<bsdrgdjg>-woot woot my refractometer and powerheads for my aquarium showed up
[19:14]<gndyvx>+Scrye: her her
[19:14]<gndyvx>+our internal network is more like a janitor shack
[19:14]<gndyvx>+just enough to keep most of the rain off of your head
[19:14]<sazdn>+im gonna shut the office down today i think and just rip everything out and put it back together

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