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[10:25]<sxrmns>+4 ports + wan port + console port + usb ports + antennae
[10:25]<fjzvxnz>+i.e. not rackmount
[10:25]<sxrmns>+correct
[10:26]<fjzvxnz>+well, you could always get a flash upgrade for it, then get the latest 12.4 advanced ip services image
[10:26]<sxrmns>+yes, I'm interested in this 8 )
[10:27]<sxrmns>+Tell me more
[10:27]<fjzvxnz>+'cause right now you don't have enough flash memory to burn IOS with featureset != ADVSECURITY.
[10:27]<sxrmns>+<gasp> I don't? How much room do I need?
[10:27]<fjzvxnz>+at least 28 MByte (so 32MByte ideally)
[10:28]<sxrmns>+didn't I have 128?
[10:28]<fjzvxnz>+DRAM, yeah
[10:28]<fjzvxnz>+flash is like hard disk space, DRAM is like RAM in a computer
[10:29]<sxrmns>+ugh, I only had how much flash mem? 24?
[10:29]<fjzvxnz>+right.
[10:30]<fjzvxnz>+talk to your supplier. they should be able to hook you up with the flash upgrade and the license for the advanced ip services image.
[10:31]<sxrmns>+supplier??
[10:32]<fjzvxnz>+yeah, who you bought the router through
[10:32]<sxrmns>+I need a usrname and stuff 8 /
[10:32]<sxrmns>+I bought it from cisco acad when I was a student
[10:32]<fjzvxnz>+to download IOS? yeah, you need a smartnet contract.
[10:33]<fjzvxnz>+i see.
[10:34]<sxrmns>+ 8 (
[10:34]<sxrmns>+I'm screwed then?
[10:36]<fjzvxnz>+no. you just have to find someone that sells cisco upgrades.
[10:36]<fjzvxnz>+there are a ton of partners and resellers out there though
[10:37]<fjzvxnz>+the unit can have max 52 MByte flash
[10:38]<fjzvxnz>+so you can probably get another 24MByte chip
[10:38]<fjzvxnz>+brb.
[10:38]<sxrmns>+wait a minute
[10:39]<sxrmns>+so I need additional hardware and I need to purchase software too
[10:39]<ddvww>-hi all, does anyone have any cisco ccna module final exams if possible ver 3.1?? pls thanks
[10:46]<sxrmns>+Advanced IP Services costs a lot?
[10:46]<fjzvxnz>+i honestly don't know how much it will end up costing
[10:47]<fjzvxnz>+a better idea is to buy a smartnet contract (around $75/year for that model) and then just run that image
[10:47]<fjzvxnz>+you'll be running it unlicensed
[10:47]<fjzvxnz>+but it will work. And, if you're just using it to learn, *eh*
[10:48]<sxrmns>+yea
[10:48]<sxrmns>+I'm not a business
[10:48]<sxrmns>+Education, so where can I aquisition it? 8 )
[10:48]<fjzvxnz>+that's what the smartnet contract is for
[10:48]<fjzvxnz>+you'll get CCO access, which will allow you to download IOS
[10:48]<sxrmns>+i can't just pay them once, and once it's loaded, that's all I'll need?
[10:49]<fjzvxnz>+you could do it that way
[10:49]<sxrmns>+if anyone has a cco account they can get the software?
[10:49]<fjzvxnz>+right
[10:49]<fjzvxnz>+i can download ios for hardware i don't even have access to
[10:52]<sxrmns>+that's cool 8 )
[11:08]<ansc>-i want to mediastream mpeg via multicast, which meadiaclient can subscribe itself via igmp on the switch?
[11:11]<ndncun>+vlc
[11:11]<ndncun>+faik.
[11:11]<ndncun>+http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
[11:12]<ndncun>+at least with linux, untested on freebsd
[11:12]<ndncun>+oh, and xp, but i spose that doesnt count :)
[11:13]<ansc>-ok cool thanks
[11:15]<ansc>-do you know how i can subscribe manually with freebsd?
[11:16]<ansc>-just want to test iigmp capabilitiees on the switch
[11:18]<sxrmns>+anyone else alive around here?
[11:19]<ansc>-whats up?
[12:27]<rjjvus>+hello. I'm trying to use nat with an loopback interface ( to avoid using "ip nat outside" on all the possible exit-points ) the nat works, I see that in "show ip nat translation" but for some reason the packets don't come back the way it should. what do I miss (or overlooked?)
[14:11]<sulnzo>-yoo
[14:16]<mrxmjum>+hi suid`
[14:16]<mrxmjum>+super8
[14:17]<fmnwvnz_>-hello world
[14:18]<sgrcn006uc>+hey guys, i have a silly question
[14:19]<emwzzm_tls>+hi
[14:19]<sgrcn006uc>+lets say you had a 24 port switch (no VLANS setup) but you had two different networks on that switch 192.168.1.x 172.16.x.x
[14:19]<sgrcn006uc>+has the switch works on layer 2
[14:19]<sgrcn006uc>+it would know all the mac adresses of devices attached
[14:20]<emwzzm_tls>+i gues so...
[14:20]<emwzzm_tls>+as a switch it hould work for the 2 networks...
[14:20]<sgrcn006uc>+so if you sent a ping... from one node to another (on the other network) it would ping.... as the switch would look at layer 2 frame get the dest mac and forward to relevant port
[14:21]<emwzzm_tls>+from the 192 to the 172 network you mean... ?
[14:21]<sgrcn006uc>+yep
[14:21]<emwzzm_tls>+then you need routing from x to y
[14:21]<sgrcn006uc>+as switch wouldnt care about the layer 3 addressing
[14:21]<sgrcn006uc>+it would look at layer 2 find mac address and check it arp table forward to relevant port
[14:21]<emwzzm_tls>+who is the default gw. ?
[14:21]<sgrcn006uc>+that dont matter...
[14:21]<sgrcn006uc>+think about it....
[14:21]<mrxmjum>+I have bcmsn-like test tomorrow, netacad test from chapter 1 to 8.
[14:22]<sgrcn006uc>+switch looks at layer 2 (frame)
[14:22]<emwzzm_tls>+I'm no expert.. but I think that won't work..
[14:22]<fmnwvnz_>-Snake007uk: Doesn't work
[14:22]<fmnwvnz_>-Snake007uk: You need to route
[14:22]<sgrcn006uc>+hey ldexter :)
[14:22]<fmnwvnz_>-hola
[14:22]<emwzzm_tls>+you reallu need routing to go from network x to y
[14:22]<sgrcn006uc>+ldexter why not ? the switch would look at layer 2 frame and not layer 3 packet?
[14:23]<fmnwvnz_>-What happens is, you ping 172.x.x.x, since the network is not directly connected, you'll need a route to that network
[14:23]<emwzzm_tls>+yep
[14:23]<sgrcn006uc>+it is directly connected via switch
[14:23]<sgrcn006uc>+ok...
[14:23]<sgrcn006uc>+think this way...
[14:23]<fmnwvnz_>-The local machine that you're pinging from doesn't know anything about 172.. Its not directly conencted and it doesn't have a route, it'll think you're crazy.
[14:23]<emwzzm_tls>+no need.. the host that you ping from will try to contact your default gw
[14:24]<fmnwvnz_>-Snake007uk: I knwo what you're trying to say, but it won't work.
[14:24]<sgrcn006uc>+ldexter ok :)
[14:24]<sgrcn006uc>+but why switch not forward if it know the dest mac address is in it table ?
[14:24]<emwzzm_tls>+you can add an alias in the 172 network on the host in the 192 network....
[14:24]<fmnwvnz_>-Its not that the switch won't forward, the host machine that you're pinging from won't even send anything to the switch

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