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[00:00]<ljanuz>-we've got OC-3s on both ends
[00:00]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+ESP over TCP?
[00:00]<ljanuz>-but the issues shouldn't be the 155Mbps limits, it should be the latency limits with a TCP sessions requiring validation before transmitting more
[00:01]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+right.
[00:01]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+it's a function of packet size
[00:01]<ljanuz>-loather: can I do UDP between 2 cisco devices?
[00:01]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+it defaults to UDP
[00:01]<ljanuz>-and will that speed things up
[00:02]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+bbl.
[00:02]<sazdn>+oi
[00:03]<sxrmns>+it should
[00:03]<sxrmns>+because of the no handshake
[00:08]<sxrmns>+I love it when firefox crashes with all these important tabs open.
[00:08]<rgvajac>+history is your friend
[00:10]<sxrmns>+Can someone point me in the right direction as to why the host tied to vlan10 tied to port fa3 isn't getting outside access? http://pastebin.com/763414
[00:17]<sazdn>+mwah gonna come back online with my new reverse setup
[00:19]<sazdn>-word to loather
[00:19]<fmnwvnz>-Can the host on Fa3 ping vlan10's IP address?
[00:24]<sxrmns>+why it certainly can
[00:25]<sazdn>+wtf google ads is placing church ads on my dns related site
[00:25]<sxrmns>+i can ping 192.168.101.1 from the router, but not 192.168.101.2 which is the ip of the host, the host can ping 192.168.101.1 but not outside
[00:26]<sazdn>+gateway not set
[00:26]<sazdn>+look for dumb typos
[00:26]<sxrmns>+on the host?
[00:26]<sazdn>+yes
[00:26]<sxrmns>+gateway is set correctly
[00:26]<sxrmns>+just checked.
[00:26]<sxrmns>+192.168.101.1
[00:27]<sazdn>+ip routing on
[00:27]<sxrmns>+oh wait
[00:27]<sxrmns>+i'm sorry
[00:27]<sxrmns>+I /can/ ping the host from the router, the hosts ip is 192.168.101.22
[00:28]<sxrmns>+I just activated 'ip routing' from conf t
[00:30]<rered_ydl>+someone in here living with a 28h day system or some other kind of this?
[00:30]<sazdn>+engrish?
[00:33]<mrxmjum>+sleep time, wish me good luck for my exam today at 3:15 PM.. see you later :c)
[00:34]<rered_ydl>+sorry :D
[00:43]<sazdn>+does the 500$ arin membership cover any ips or are those extra
[00:44]<sazdn>+ah, finally find thier price structure
[00:53]<ljanuz>-ips are free
[00:53]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+$500/year?
[00:57]<gndyvx>+$500 dollars for membership rights
[00:57]<sazdn>+then 500$ for an AS $
[00:57]<sazdn>+1200 for a 'micro allocation' / yr
[00:58]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+AS?
[00:58]<sazdn>+But.. I think my org qualifies for an 'experiemental' range
[00:58]<sazdn>+ASN
[00:58]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+oh, right
[00:58]<sazdn>+So i think we can get a /19 for 500$ for 1 year, non-renewable
[00:58]<sazdn>+no commercial traffic
[00:58]<gndyvx>+i doubt it
[00:58]<sazdn>+well its worth a shot
[00:59]<gndyvx>+why do you need a /19?
[00:59]<vwcd>+loather-work: a portable allocation isn't free, at all.
[00:59]<sazdn>+testing
[00:59]<vwcd>+err, that was for loceur.
[00:59]<sazdn>+i dont need a /19 i think thats what they give you
[00:59]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+arin is nazi-ish
[00:59]<gndyvx>+get a /24 from your isp
[00:59]<vwcd>+Scrye: you can get as long as a /21 from them without too much effort.
[00:59]<gndyvx>+loather-work: with reason
[01:00]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>+yeah, if everyone out there wanted a /24 (or a /19) we'd run out of ip space way too fast
[01:00]<sazdn>+we have 9 /24's already
[01:01]<gndyvx>+i though you made equipment
[01:01]<sazdn>+to get an experimental block, you have to publish the results in a public document
[01:01]<sazdn>+we make equipment, but another division has an ISP
[01:03]<sazdn>+If we decide to make our own bgp/ospf/blah daemon, i think they would give us some temp public space
[01:03]<vwcd>+unlikely.
[01:04]<sazdn>+well they dont charge unless the approve it
[01:04]<sazdn>+i only need like a /20
[01:04]<sazdn>+err /22
[01:04]<vwcd>+if you can justify it you can get the /20, easily.
[01:04]<vwcd>+a /22 you cannot get, from arin.
[01:04]<vd2r>-screw /24. I want a /16 for me. at my apartment complex.
[01:04]<vwcd>+well, you can get a /48 for you.
[01:05]<gndyvx>+and rfc1918 doesn'tw ork?
[01:05]<gndyvx>+twkm: 3ffe is dead
[01:05]<vwcd>+certainly, but ipv6 isn't.
[01:05]<vwcd>+and /48 remains the current "end user" allocation length.
[01:05]<sazdn>+you can get a /22 for a 'end user'
[01:05]<vwcd>+of course you don't get those from arin either, but rather from your provider.
[01:06]<sazdn>+nemith : 1918 is fine, but would you want a product that has never seen the internet?
[01:07]<vwcd>+Scrye: that's a catch-22.
[01:07]<vwcd>+Scrye: if you connect it to the internet, anywhere, we all get to see how well it works, or doesn't.
[01:08]<sazdn>+you can get a /22 from ARIN under the "end user"
[01:08]<sazdn>+CutieCoder: non-ISP
[01:08]<sazdn>+err ie non-isp
[01:08]<sazdn>+if you have an asn + multihomed
[01:09]<cuvyncjmnz>+I know you like me :P
[01:09]<cuvyncjmnz>+haha
[01:09]<vwcd>+i.e., you have to qualify as an end-user (multi-homed, etc) and have enough justification for the count.
[01:10]<bzrmylj>+What does it take to get a /16?
[01:10]<vwcd>+of course people lie their asses off to arin, and arin does nothing about it.
[01:10]<vwcd>+Bradipo: good booze.
[01:10]<j2rgvr_>-It was a pain to get our second /20 from ARIN back when I was at a smaller ISP
[01:10]<sazdn>+a /16 aint that hard to get
[01:10]<sazdn>+you gotta be a pretty big existing ISP to get one
[01:11]<j2rgvr_>-Had to fill out all the utilization forms for individual customers
[01:11]<bzrmylj>+What about organizations, non-ISP?
[01:11]<sazdn>+you wont







