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[20:59]<fjzvxnz>then have the voip box/router take care of it
[20:59]<dzzvd>I mean, I've seen some devices that are basically a VOIP server that have the Amphenol connections directly coming in from Rj11 and then an Ethernet interface to point to some othe rVOIP server
[20:59]<fjzvxnz>actually, there is an NM for 3600/2800 series now that i think about it, that may take an RJ-11
[21:03]<dzzvd>Sorry my computer self-rebooted
[21:03]<dzzvd>So, what were you saying?
[21:03]<dzzvd>What I need is this:
[21:04]<fjzvxnz>[10:58:54] <loather> actually, there is an NM for 3600/2800 series now that i think about it, that may take an RJ-11
[21:04]<dzzvd>Appartment rj11 ------------------- Amphenol (rj12?) VOIP gateway (ehternet) --------------- voip server
[21:04]<fjzvxnz>i'm looking for the part number right now
[21:04]<dzzvd>nice ok
[21:04]<vcul>self-rebooted? now that's scary
[21:05]<dzzvd>yeah.. well, it does that every 2 weeks these days ...
[21:05]<dzzvd>virus you think?
[21:05]<dzzvd>maybe
[21:05]<dzzvd>I really gotta start thinking about using BSD as my desktop and move away frm Windows
[21:06]<vcul>it must be having the friday munchikans
[21:06]<dzzvd>lol - maybe!
[21:09]<dzzvd>is this it?
[21:09]<dzzvd>igure 16-2 High-Density Analog Telephony Card Connected to a Main Distribution Frame
[21:09]<dzzvd>brb
[21:12]<sazdn>jesus christ this patent if read by the letter of the law makes all web based configuration tools in violation of its patent
[21:13]<sazdn>US 2004/0078787
[21:13]<sazdn>why the hell are there software patents to begin with anyway
[21:15]<[mzvzyw]>They're looking at outlawing software patents because they're stupid
[21:16]<sazdn>"System and method for troubleshooting, maintaining and repairing network devices"
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> This is the HSRP topology.
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> RouterL1 eth0 ----HSRP---->eth0 RouterL2
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> | |
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> ISND ISDN
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> | |
[21:18]<zzd-2zz> RouterR1 eth0 ----HSRP---->eth0 RouterR2
[21:18]<zzd-2zz>The RouterLs are local and the RouterRs at the same remote site. Could this configuration provide reliable standby function or would a ?Dialer Watch? setup be a better choic
[21:21]<fjzvxnz>marty: i lied, i guess there doesn't exist such a beast
[21:21]<dzzvd>Actually there is... I'll get back to you in a sec.
[21:22]<dzzvd>arm-bar - what' ISND?
[21:22]<fjzvxnz>i think he means isdn
[21:22]<dzzvd>you'd need an adapter then.. let's assume he's got those
[21:23]<dzzvd>man you know waht.... I'm not gonan say anything on that... never implemented such a topology - looks neat though... I don't see why HSRP woudn't work though
[21:24]<dzzvd>wait..
[21:24]<dzzvd>hmmm...
[21:24]<dzzvd>How are the L1 and L2 sharing HSRP information? keepalives? Is there a switch?
[21:29]<dzzvd>loather - the 4000 switches do exactly what I need
[21:31]<fjzvxnz>marty: the old 4000s? or the new 4500s?
[21:36]<zzd-2zz>Marty:Hsrp is through hello timmers I think. We are going to test the standyby interface bri but I was curious of an alternative that would work in this sanario.
[21:37]<dzzvd>4224 - but it'd end of life and doesn't seem to be replaced with anything
[21:38]<dzzvd>arm-bar: yes, hello default of 10 sec. if I remember correctly... but how is the Hello going from one router to the other router?
[21:45]<zzd-2zz>crossover cable
[21:45]<zzd-2zz>on the ethernet ints
[21:47]<zzd-2zz>For now the failover occurs id the ethernet interface goes down on either of the primary routers.
[21:49]<jeeej>HSRP is designed to work around router failure. link failure isn't going to prompt a cutover
[21:50]<zzd-2zz>That is going to be a problem. What is a reliable substution in this case ozzzo?
[21:51]<jeeej>you have 2 ISDN lines to the same place?
[21:51]<zzd-2zz>Right now if RouterL1 or RouterR1 goes down RouterL2 and RouterR2 will become active.
[21:52]<zzd-2zz>four, two RouterR1 and two to RouterR2, (tied together for a 128 connection I think).
[21:52]<jeeej>oop, after looking at the docs it looks like that should work if you have it setup correctly
[21:53]<jeeej>did you put your configs on pastebin yet?
[21:53]<jeeej>and did you already try this? http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/hsrpguidetoc.html#intracking
[21:55]<zzd-2zz>Well, I will be testing that setup soon. Need to wait till we have some *downtime*
[21:55]<[mzvzyw]>Hmm, note to self. Always remember to manually replicate changes to both HSRP routers.
[22:01]<vz2ufzzzsz>yeah, thats a good idea
[22:18]<vz2ufzzzsz>i just made a custom .adm file to disable "Automatically search the network for shared printers and folders" if anyone wants a copy
[22:19]<[mzvzyw]>you ever wonder what all these people do that sit in this channel and don't ever talk?
[22:19]<vz2ufzzzsz>cause that setting causes me much pain
[22:19]<vz2ufzzzsz>yeah, sort of
[22:19]<vz2ufzzzsz>they are afraid to say something stupid and nemith stike them down.. :)
[22:20]<[mzvzyw]>and he will
[22:21]<[mzvzyw]>lol
[22:21]<[mzvzyw]>big, heavy.
[22:24]<[mzvzyw]>http://www.andovercg.com/images/used-cisco-5500-catalyst-switch.jpg
[22:25]<2zdsnpzz>Has anyone fiddled with iSCSI?
[22:25]<[mzvzyw]>Or from the front: http://www.jscc.ru/informat/LANMSC.files/image009.gif
[22:25]<vz2ufzzzsz>bamsefar: yes
[22:26]<2zdsnpzz>Any good docs about it?
[22:26]<2zdsnpzz>Can I use like a 3560G as a SAN switch?
[22:26]<vz2ufzzzsz>totally
[22:26]<vz2ufzzzsz>docs, i didnt find too much good, i just messed with ti
[22:26]<vz2ufzzzsz>it
[22:27]<[mzvzyw]>it just uses IP. Any switch will work.
[22:27]<2zdsnpzz>Cool
[22:27]<2zdsnpzz>:]
[22:27]<vz2ufzzzsz>look at a linux iscsi initiator solution, as it was found to be just as good as hardware
[22:27]<vz2ufzzzsz>just much cheaper
[22:27]<2zdsnpzz>Cool
[22:27]<2zdsnpzz>What kind of controller would I use?
[22:28]<[mzvzyw]>Although, switches that support jumbo frames are the best
[22:28]<[mzvzyw]>if you use a software initiator, you can use a standard NIC.
[22:28]<2zdsnpzz>Ah
[22:28]<vz2ufzzzsz>yes
[22:28]<vz2ufzzzsz>which is what i was getting at
[22:28]<2zdsnpzz>Is there software iSCSI for FreeBSD?
[22:28]<vz2ufzzzsz>hmmm... i used Gentoo
[22:28]<2zdsnpzz>Okay
[22:29]<vz2ufzzzsz>also, you can use etherchannel to boost performance
[22:29]<vz2ufzzzsz>:)
[22:29]<2zdsnpzz>:O
[22:29]<vz2ufzzzsz>shall i recommend 2 pro 1000s







