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[00:00]<bsdrgdjg>in a F20 T12 flourescent light bulb, what exactly do the F20 and T12 parts mean?
[00:00]<_vaa>omfgz
[00:00]<_vaa>TIEM!
[00:02]<_vaa>Which layer of the hierarchical three-layer design model combines traffic from multiple IDFs?
[00:02]<_vaa>access
[00:02]<_vaa> backbone
[00:02]<_vaa> distribution
[00:02]<_vaa> core
[00:03]<bsdrgdjg>well, not backbone cuz its not part of the 3 layer design
[00:03]<_vaa>i am saying distribution
[00:05]<_vaa>I give up.
[00:07]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>BSDaemon: Here they are listed as part numbers http://www.thekrib.com/Lights/fluorescent-table.html
[00:07]<j2rgvr_>I'd guess distribution
[00:07]<j2rgvr_>And backbone is not one of the three layers as defined by Cisco speak.
[00:07]<j2rgvr_>Or atleast it wasn't the last time I read the CCD* book which has been 5 or so years ago.
[00:08]<_vaa>How are switches selected as the STP without configuration?
[00:09]<_vaa>the root bridge
[00:09]<j2rgvr_>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/sw_ntman/cwsimain/cwsi2/cwsiug2/vlan2/stpapp.htm
[00:11]<_vaa>The lowest mac address...
[00:11]<_vaa>Oh my god.
[00:11]<_vaa>4 pages....
[00:11]<bsdrgdjg>cartesian1984: thanks, mine isnt listed n that site though, but thanks anyway :D
[00:13]<_vaa>6
[00:13]<_vaa>Which of the following statements is true when VTP is configured on a switched network that incorporates VLANs?
[00:13]<_vaa> VTP is only compatible with the 802.1Q standard.
[00:13]<_vaa> VTP adds to the complexity of managing a switched network.
[00:13]<_vaa> All VTP hello packets are routed through VLAN 1 interfaces.
[00:13]<_vaa> Changes made to the network can be communicated to all switches dynamically.
[00:13]<_vaa>?
[00:13]<mrxmjum>news: i have finall exam today 2PM, expect low marks from me, didn't study well, i were playing with perl in the holiday :D
[00:14]<_vaa>errr
[00:14]<_vaa>I am taking an exam now.
[00:14]<_vaa>Same thing
[00:14]<_vaa>lol
[00:14]<_vaa>Does anyone know?
[00:14]<_vaa>I am royally screwed.
[00:15]<bsdrgdjg>youre taking an exam right now? is that where these questions are coming from?
[00:15]<_vaa>Yes,
[00:15]<_vaa>What is VTP?
[00:15]<_vaa>My instructor never taught us _ANYTHING_
[00:15]<_vaa>He read his email.
[00:15]<mrxmjum>_tcc, and you asking help from us?
[00:15]<_vaa>YES!!!
[00:15]<_vaa>lol
[00:15]<bsdrgdjg>_tcc: do your own homework.
[00:16]<_vaa>:(
[00:16]<_vaa>We had no homework.
[00:16]<_vaa>That's the problem.
[00:16]<mrxmjum>_tcc, we will help you :D
[00:16]<_vaa>See that question up there?
[00:16]<_vaa>I need help with that.
[00:17]<bsdrgdjg>zing
[00:17]<_vaa>ok
[00:17]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>obanta_: don't be an asshole.
[00:17]<bsdrgdjg>hes not being an asshole
[00:17]<j2rgvr_>I'm not, I didn't ban him did I?
[00:17]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>What was the purpose of kicking him?
[00:17]<j2rgvr_>I just kicked him since he didn't seem to get the point when someone else told him to do his own homework
[00:18]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>Then someone offered to help him.
[00:18]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>So there's no need.
[00:18]<j2rgvr_>there is
[00:18]<bsdrgdjg>Yeah, because giving him the answers is gonna help him.
[00:18]<_vaa>It will.
[00:18]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>It will on the short term.
[00:18]<bsdrgdjg>He'll become like Mahmoud and not care that he doesn't actually know how to do anything
[00:18]<_vaa>Yes, I am taking this again anyways.
[00:19]<j2rgvr_>Maybe you need therapy if you're that sensitive about a kick on IRC
[00:19]<_vaa>I _DO_ care.
[00:19]<bsdrgdjg>Short term is irrelevant
[00:19]<_vaa>cartesian1984, tell them about my situation.
[00:19]<_vaa>I am under fux0r right now.
[00:19]<j2rgvr_>_tcc: Your lack of preparation isn't our problem.
[00:20]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>Its kinda hard to prepare for a class in which the instructor has never assigned anything.
[00:20]<j2rgvr_>They have these things called books
[00:20]<_vaa>He never gave us any.
[00:20]<bsdrgdjg>then buy your own
[00:21]<_vaa>I am poor.
[00:21]<_vaa>I can't.
[00:21]<bsdrgdjg>again, not our problem.
[00:21]<j2rgvr_>They have a plethora of documentation on www.cisco.com that should cover all the basics you're interested in learning right now
[00:22]<j2rgvr_>Just search for each topic that you have a question on and start reading/studying.
[00:22]<j2rgvr_>Then if you still have a question ask, atleast then you should have a good understanding of the basics and will ask better questions than 'tell me the answer to these questions'
[00:22]<j2rgvr_>s/tell me/Will you/
[00:23]<j2rgvr_>ack
[00:23]<j2rgvr_>You know what I mean :)
[00:23]<_vaa>I am taking this class privately.
[00:23]<_vaa>This "school" bullshit is a joke.
[00:23]<_vaa>I can teach myself.
[00:23]<j2rgvr_>That is how most of us here have done it
[00:24]<_vaa>That is how it should be done.
[00:24]<_vaa>Not dictated by a bunch of "teachers" who don't give a damn.
[00:24]<_vaa>I never got a book, I never got a lecture.
[00:24]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>Thats what I intend to do. Is Computer Networks by Andrew Tanembaum a good place to start?
[00:24]<_vaa>The class played games.
[00:25]<_vaa>Get a cisco book.
[00:25]<_vaa>Cisc0 rul3z
[00:25]<bsdrgdjg>ciscopress.com
[00:25]<bsdrgdjg>enjoy./
[00:26]<j2rgvr_>cartesian1984: That book generally goes along with a senior level CS course on computer networks, so it definitely has a more theroretical approach to it, but definitely good stuff to know.
[00:26]<zzzvgsyzgwno9>obanta_: hrm.....get a cisco book first, you think?

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