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[00:00]<dffnw>pix...its like ios but its not
[00:00]<yffyayv>...
[00:00]<yffyayv>the help format within PIX
[00:00]<yffyayv>is...terrible.
[00:00]<gndyvx>mplex: nice observation
[00:00]<gndyvx>both of these issues were fixed in pixos 7
[00:01]<yffyayv>really nemith ?
[00:02]<gndyvx>yeah, pic has contect sensative help in 7.0 as well as a really filesytem and configuration control
[00:02]<gndyvx>amongst other thngs
[00:03]<sdac2jd>Where is my phone call Scryerchu
[00:03]<gndyvx>mplex: there are a lot of "IOS like" interfaces
[00:03]<gndyvx>expecially in networking
[00:03]<gndyvx>Scryerchu: whats your CLI like?
[00:03]<sazdnzaxu>sickboy peter will be back in like 3 minutes
[00:03]<sdac2jd>ok
[00:03]<sazdnzaxu>nemith : cant talk about it
[00:03]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>pix 7 is totally a lot better than 6.x
[00:03]<gndyvx>heh
[00:03]<gndyvx>well never mind
[00:03]<sazdnzaxu>get back to me in a few days when our patents are filed
[00:03]<gndyvx>ah
[00:03]<gndyvx>i see
[00:03]<dffnw>true, though pix is not one of the better ones
[00:04]<sdac2jd>Dude Adam Carolla hung up on Ann Coulter
[00:04]<gndyvx>oh it's better than a lot
[00:04]<sazdnzaxu>who is ann coulter
[00:04]<dffnw>skank
[00:05]<sdac2jd>You dont know who ann coulter is?
[00:05]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>isn't she the courtesy nazi?
[00:05]<sdac2jd>your not missing mutch
[00:05]<sdac2jd>no
[00:05]<sdac2jd>she is the republican nazi
[00:05]<sdac2jd>http://www.anncoulter.com
[00:05]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>what are her claims to fame?
[00:06]<dffnw>outrageous statements
[00:07]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>no data
[00:07]<sdac2jd>Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."
[00:07]<kgzggf-kzys>nemith: anyideas on the problem i am having with the 3845
[00:07]<gndyvx>no
[00:07]<gndyvx>call tac
[00:07]<gndyvx>:P
[00:07]<sdac2jd>"To The People Of Islam: Just think: If we'd invaded your countries, killed your leaders and converted you to Christianity YOU'D ALL BE OPENING CHRISTMAS PRESENTS RIGHT ABOUT NOW! Merry Christmas.
[00:08]<sdac2jd>Stuff like that
[00:08]<rufddr_>i have just found a pix here at work, a 520, with 6.1 on it
[00:08]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>wow, she's rather useless
[00:08]<rufddr_>can i get it to do something useful?
[00:08]<rufddr_>maybe ios 7?
[00:08]<dffnw>"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
[00:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>nah, pix 7 is only on 515, 525, 535
[00:09]<rufddr_>gah
[00:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>that 520 would make a good doorstop, though
[00:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>or perhaps boat anchor :D
[00:09]<rufddr_>hah, it would
[00:09]<rufddr_>not even for learning pix on?
[00:09]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>nah, they're still useful
[00:09]<rufddr_>i'm a pix newb
[00:10]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>get it up to the latest 6.4, and you should be able to learn a bit about pix
[00:10]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>make sure it has enough ram/flash though.
[00:10]<rufddr_>mmm thanks
[00:10]<rufddr_>128m ram
[00:10]<rufddr_>16m flash
[00:10]<gndyvx>if it has 128m of ram you may be able to basterdize 7.0 on it
[00:10]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>i think that's enough
[00:11]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>yeah, 'cause 7 isn't officially supported
[00:11]<rufddr_>Hardware: SE440BX2, 128 MB RAM, CPU Pentium II 350 MHz
[00:11]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>but i think you can brute-force it on there
[00:11]<rufddr_>heh
[00:11]<rufddr_>do you have to beg cisco to get 6.4?
[00:11]<gndyvx>by bruite force he mean just load it on
[00:11]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>you need a support contract
[00:11]<rufddr_>sure sure
[00:12]<rufddr_>ok, we have two 525's and two 515's so maybe our reseller can get us it
[00:12]<rufddr_>if i ask nicely
[00:13]<rufddr_>don't you have to have a 'software support contract' for that sort of thing?
[00:13]<rufddr_>we have a 'third party support contract'
[00:13]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>a smartnet agreement or a hardware support contract should be enough
[00:13]<rufddr_>great
[00:13]<fjzvxnz-wjzc>if you can download ios, you may very well be able to download pixos.
[00:14]<rufddr_>my reseller aren't being very cooperative, but i'm trying to get the right details out of them so i can elevate my cco login to a full one
[00:14]<rufddr_>then i'll be able to check out dl-ing that
[00:16]<rufddr_>my pdm is just hanging saying 'loading pix device manager. please wait...'
[00:16]<rufddr_>not exactly inviting
[00:16]<gndyvx>yeah
[00:16]<gndyvx>thats cause pdm is crap
[00:16]<rufddr_>hah
[00:17]<rufddr_>ciscoworks?
[00:17]<fncu>that should be a ban word
[00:17]<rufddr_>haha
[00:18]<rufddr_>thing is, i've noticed a certain aversion to making changes on the firewall, so i think a graphical tool can help
[00:18]<jeeej>no, it can't help
[00:18]<jeeej>use the cli
[00:18]<rufddr_>i'm new here, and pix isn't my forte
[00:18]<gndyvx>auliya_: CLI :)
[00:18]<rufddr_>:)
[00:18]<rufddr_>no problem, just thought it was worth investigating
[00:18]<rufddr_>that's why i'm here :)
[00:19]<rufddr_>definitely a good text editor though, life is busy enough
[00:21]<rufddr_>what are you using for log aggregation, analysis etc.?
[00:21]<gndyvx>syslog
[00:22]<gndyvx>:P

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