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[00:00]<pyzgdgdjg>the IT world is all about competition :(
[00:00]<sjmgmumgyglgzu>and there is a lot of it
[00:00]<vcul>whatever you do, don't take on what's easy. always look at tackling tough stuff
[00:02]<hdj>nothing worth having comes easy
[00:02]<sjmgmumgyglgzu>yea, dice.com doesn't like easy way out people
[00:03]<pyzgdgdjg>:( im an easy way out kind of person
[00:04]<pyzgdgdjg>im the whatever takes to get it working kind of person....
[00:04]<waqq0>firedemon: m2 :)
[00:04]<waqq0>why complicate things ?
[00:04]<pyzgdgdjg>exactly lol
[00:04]<sjmgmumgyglgzu>thats why we like IT
[00:04]<waqq0>But you have to do it right, no uggly solutions
[00:05]<pyzgdgdjg>yeah
[00:06]<waqq0>Anyone knows a good free log analyze software, where you could correlate logs ?
[00:06]<pyzgdgdjg>for what
[00:06]<pyzgdgdjg>? IPV6?
[00:06]<pyzgdgdjg>o_O
[00:07]<waqq0>syslog ?
[00:10]<-- 2yd2nzy xrs fuyv>http://iownmymusic.org/ http://iownmydvds.org/ .")
[00:53]<cuzyjscrv>Howdy all
[00:53]<cuzyjscrv>Anyone seen the "modular" IOS images on CCO?
[00:54]<vd2r>heard about it. haven't run one.
[00:55]<vd2r>apparently based on qnx kernel.
[00:57]<kz0gvr2>xj220, http://www.estpak.ee/~risto/sec/
[00:58]<kz0gvr2>I have not used it... but it showed up in a list of open sourced event correlation systems
[00:58]<waqq0>Kr0ntab: Have used it
[00:58]<kz0gvr2>what do you think
[00:59]<waqq0>I where hopeing one someone to have another alternative.
[00:59]<waqq0>I think it does the job, fairly good. But I thought that there maybe where anohter better software.
[00:59]<kz0gvr2>oic
[01:00]<kz0gvr2>here's another list
[01:00]<kz0gvr2>http://www.openxtra.co.uk/resource-center/open_source_event_logging_and_correlation.php
[01:00]<waqq0>ty
[01:00]<kz0gvr2>eh... i dont know if they're better...
[01:00]<kz0gvr2>but worth a look
[01:00]<kz0gvr2>you a Cisco customer?
[01:00]<cuzyjscrv>I just noticed new 720 images based on it
[01:01]<cuzyjscrv>think I'll try them out on a test router here
[01:01]<kz0gvr2>I know you've probably heard of MARS... formerly protego
[01:02]<waqq0>yes, Kr0ntab why are you asking ?
[01:02]<kz0gvr2>just curious to know if you were aware of the Cisco commercial product that does the job extremely well
[01:04]<waqq0>No, havent used it
[01:04]<kz0gvr2>it costs a pretty penny... but is by far probably one of the best event correlation systems out there.
[01:05]<waqq0>ok, but I don't have that much devices that I need to check.
[01:05]<waqq0>maybe around 50?
[01:06]<kz0gvr2>what type of devices you refering to? switches routers, ap's? or also including servers, etc
[01:07]<waqq0>mixed enviorment
[01:07]<waqq0>most servers
[01:09]<waqq0>looks real nice
[01:10]<kz0gvr2>you checkin the product specs?
[01:11]<waqq0>i'm checking: http://www.sans.org/whatworks/casestudy.php?id=87
[01:13]<waqq0>bedtime for me now, later
[01:13]<kz0gvr2>peace
[01:24]<gndyvx>CuriosCat: code named IoN
[01:24]<gndyvx>er iON
[02:05]<pnvs>hi, anyone here familiar with CCIE certification?
[02:08]<azdl->most ppl would be farmiliar with it
[02:08]<pyzgdgdjg>negative
[02:08]<pyzgdgdjg>i mother wouldnt be
[02:08]<azdl->but not necessarily have it
[02:09]<pyzgdgdjg>my*
[02:09]<pnvs>cryp: i'm looking for an estimate of of the "value" of a CCIE
[02:10]<pyzgdgdjg>$5 an some burritos
[02:17]<azdl->the cost to obtain the CCIE or the cost of someone hiring a CCIE?
[02:18]<pyzgdgdjg>are you CCIE
[02:18]<azdl->nope
[02:18]<pyzgdgdjg>ill hire you for a mule and half a cow
[02:18]<pyzgdgdjg>:(
[02:18]<azdl->im just trying to understand the question
[02:20]<pnvs>I got a job offer, but i'd have to take a pay cut to change
[02:21]<pyzgdgdjg>:(
[02:21]<pyzgdgdjg>can i have it
[02:21]<pnvs>but the new job would include CCIE course books, a LOTS of handson and the employer would pay for the test
[02:22]<pnvs>(and hopefully a pay rise when I get the CCIE :)
[02:22]<pyzgdgdjg>nice
[02:22]<cuzyjscrv>fets: My employer offered to pay for my CCIE as long as I swore not to use that as an argument in future salary negotiations :o
[02:23]<azdl->18:31 <+fets> but the new job would include CCIE course books, a LOTS of handson and the employer would pay for the test
[02:23]<azdl->tests
[02:23]<azdl->plural
[02:23]<pyzgdgdjg>im not good enough to get any cisco certs :(
[02:23]<pyzgdgdjg>im noobie still
[02:23]<azdl->and also, you wont get paid more afterwards
[02:23]<-- dyrnnprd wrs puyv> i mean the other left <-")
[02:24]<azdl->your current employer will attribute your CCIE to him helping you get it
[02:24]<azdl->i.e. you owe him
[02:24]<29cr>do you need ccnp for the ccie?
[02:24]<azdl->no
[02:24]<azdl->theres no prereq.
[02:24]<pyzgdgdjg>cisco certified network professional?
[02:24]<pyzgdgdjg>whats ccie
[02:24]<azdl->firedemon: stop being stupid
[02:24]<pyzgdgdjg>i wasnt aware that i was
[02:24]<pnvs>the only way to get a pay rise at that position is to obtain ccie ..
[02:25]<azdl->fets: then obtain it. but your boss will say 'i got you your ccie, im not going to pay more'
[02:25]<pnvs>(which is sort of the problem now: we might want to pay you more, but you're not a ccie right now)
[02:25]<29cr>im a net admin, and im sure if i go ask my boss for more money with a ccie he would laugh at me
[02:26]<29cr>anyway, whats a cheap catalyst with 24/48 giga ports?
[02:26]<pnvs>3548-something?
[02:26]<29cr>umm
[02:26]<29cr>lets see

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