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[19:14]<gndyvx>125
[19:14]<sazdn>85bill
[19:14]<gndyvx>USD
[19:14]<gndyvx>just bought a nitendo DS with my amex points :)
[19:14]<duv>85 billion dollars?
[19:15]<gndyvx>mut: 125USD
[19:15]<gndyvx>ignore the troll
[19:15]<gndyvx>:P
[19:15]<duv>sad part is i'de get these certs
[19:15]<duv>but they'de do me no good
[19:15]<duv>to find a job where i'de use it i'de need to move to a city
[19:16]<gndyvx>shall i recommed moving to a city :)
[19:16]<duv>then i'de need to sell my house
[19:16]<duv>and i dun wanna do that
[19:17]<gndyvx>:P
[19:17]<gndyvx>i don't know what do tell you
[19:18]<dzzc1lyvn>hmm well mut do what your heart tells you to do..
[19:18]<sazdn>then dont sell your house
[19:18]<sazdn>rent it out and move to an apartment
[19:18]<gndyvx>ooh
[19:18]<duv>ooo
[19:18]<gndyvx>profit!
[19:18]<duv>then i gotta deal with renters
[19:18]<duv>that gets nasty
[19:19]<gndyvx>it can
[19:19]<sazdn>so
[19:19]<duv>tho i suppose it might not be too bad
[19:19]<sazdn>you make money
[19:19]<duv>it's a 3 bedroom house i'de put up for more money than any podunk would pay
[19:19]<sazdn>then you rent it to 3 students
[19:19]<sazdn>duh
[19:20]<duv>hell no
[19:20]<duv>like a family with 2 kindergarteners
[19:20]<duv>would be perfect
[19:20]<duv>:P
[19:20]<sazdn>you cant get what you want unless you give up what you have
[19:21]<byffyngdjjn>msn tá horrível hj ...
[19:22]<byffyngdjjn>wrong channel !!! :)
[19:27]<rufddr>do you need to have a software support contract to get elevated access to the CCO part of cisco.com? I'm thinking of the 'more than guest access' access.
[19:30]<gndyvx>god i had some people
[19:30]<gndyvx>a guy here, in IT mind you, was all freaked out that his PC over the weekend lost some sessions
[19:30]<gndyvx>and he was worried about the core going down
[19:31]<gndyvx>i don't give a flying fuck if your lost some SSH connection on a sunday
[19:31]<sazdn>whoo
[19:31]<gndyvx>expecially from a client machine
[19:31]<sazdn>did my patch in about 10 minutes
[19:31]<sazdn>cost me nothing
[19:31]<gndyvx>hand patching is easy
[19:31]<sazdn>i just hate doing it
[19:32]<sazdn>now lets hope it compiles clean
[19:33]<duv>my sweet lord jesus christ!
[19:33]<duv>this ODBC - ODBC bridge software
[19:33]<duv>$44,599 for an unlimited wan license
[19:34]<duv>it's like.. 4 megs
[19:34]<sazdn>software licensing is insane
[19:34]<srrdf2nff>mut: <mr rogers voice> can you say 'usary', I knew you could!
[19:35]<srrdf2nff>They all know the axe is gonna fall on licensing garbage for big bucks so they are grabbing our cash and running :(
[19:35]<sazdn>heh cisco CCM doesnt have an unlimited license
[19:36]<sazdn>for 1 million licenses it costs like 50 million dollars
[19:37]<srrdf2nff>Well, you know, they invoke sooo much cost when you add users, it's simply a fact that the charge must be higher <extreme sarcasm mode ended, you shoulda spotted it at the getgo)
[19:37]<gndyvx>not really
[19:37]<gndyvx>the licenses are purchased with the phone
[19:37]<gndyvx>now in CCM <= 4 CCM didn't check for the licenses
[19:37]<gndyvx>CCM 5 it does
[19:38]<srrdf2nff>Actually, I have to say that, overall, cisco is pretty good with licensing, especially when compared to other products (not just networking stuff) out there.
[19:38]<sazdn>aghhh
[19:38]<sazdn>i need some compile nodes
[19:38]<sazdn>this build takes forever
[19:38]<gndyvx>mostly due to the fact that CCM5 support pretty much any SIP phone
[19:39]<sazdn>nemith : if this thing builds properly, we should have an mpls stack working for linux
[19:39]<gndyvx>heh
[19:39]<gndyvx>:)
[19:40]<vz2ufzzzsz>afternoon all
[19:41]<sazdn>nemith : what was ciscos huge router called? the bfr?
[19:41]<zyvnz_>CRS-1?
[19:41]<gndyvx>CRS-1
[19:42]<sazdn>when did 40gig-e come out?
[19:42]<ald>tuesday last
[19:43]<sazdn>of course it didnt compile cleanly
[19:43]<sazdn>now i gotta go fix crap...
[19:46]<sazdn>good god
[19:46]<sazdn>someone didnt include :#include <linux/if_arp.h>
[19:46]<gndyvx>bash some heads
[19:46]<dffnw>anyone use a console server to manage lots of of devices from one console?
[19:46]<gndyvx>console server...
[19:46]<gndyvx>like a terminal server?
[19:47]<dffnw>yea
[19:47]<gndyvx>they are great for OOB into devices
[19:47]<sazdn>i used to luse PM4es for that
[19:47]<dffnw>yea, thats what I want but theres a lot to choose from so I was wondering if anyone had recomendations
[19:47]<sazdn>whoooooo compiled cleanly
[19:51]<byffyngdjjn>Scrye, what tcp options (inside /proc) in linux you use ?
[19:51]<sazdn>our stuff talk to the kernel directly usually
[19:52]<sazdn>like we dont use 'iptables'
[19:52]<sazdn>we talk to netfilter directly
[19:52]<sazdn>ie our router is gnu-free
[19:52]<sazdn>gnu = disease
[19:52]<byffyngdjjn>why?
[19:52]<gndyvx>how can that be?
[19:52]<gndyvx>linux kernel is gnu

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