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[20:11]<gndyvx>i should be studying
[20:12]<sazdn>for what
[20:12]<sazdn>to fail again?
[20:12]<vd2r>that's harsh.
[20:12]<vd2r>he only missed by one point.
[20:12]<gndyvx>2
[20:12]<sazdn>hey he craps on my product all the time
[20:12]<gndyvx>but yeah
[20:12]<gndyvx>and that was after drinking when i got off the plane
[20:12]<vd2r>I don't know what your product is in order to shit on it.
[20:13]<vd2r>I will tell you though that linux code is MESSY.
[20:13]<gndyvx>messy like Scrye's mom
[20:13]<sazdn>my mom is a lesbian
[20:13]<sazdn>so get all the jokes out now
[20:13]<vd2r>that explains a lot.
[20:13]<sdac2jd>Your mom is a Lesbian?
[20:13]<sdac2jd>is she single?
[20:13]<vd2r>no daddy at home for a role model.
[20:13]<sazdn>yeah i was raised by 2 people who liked peepee
[20:13]<sazdn>womens peepees
[20:13]<vd2r>sickboy: old butch lesbian != hot.
[20:14]<sazdn>after i left the house my mom left my father for another woman
[20:14]<sdac2jd>Well at least she saved you the trama
[20:15]<sdac2jd>Why are Canadians Weird?
[20:15]<sdac2jd>http://filelist.geerbox.com/brandon/Dog%20Sign.jpg
[20:15]<gndyvx>alright alright
[20:16]<gndyvx>back on topic
[20:16]<vd2r>right the linux sucks topic. ;)
[20:16]<byffyngdjjn>tmbg, linux is sux, so what u use ?? windows ??
[20:16]<gndyvx>oh god
[20:17]<byffyngdjjn>nemith, is only a question ...
[20:17]<byffyngdjjn>curiosity ...
[20:17]<gndyvx>no.. it's a stupid argument question
[20:17]<gndyvx>I use windows
[20:17]<byffyngdjjn>nemith, now I get ur point
[20:17]<gndyvx>anyway
[20:17]<sazdn>heh ive seen that sign
[20:18]<sazdn>its in north van
[20:18]<sdac2jd>is it?
[20:18]<gndyvx>thats why at the bottom of the sign it says, North Vancouver
[20:18]<sazdn>its in ambelside park
[20:18]<vd2r>billie: pc-bsd (freebsd prettied up simplified), openbsd, windows 2000.
[20:19]<byffyngdjjn>tmbg, ok
[20:19]<vd2r>different os's have different roles. I don't personally feel that linux does a good job performing the roles I need. it may be different for other people.
[20:19]<srd-i-rd>Scrye: not to bring up the netfilter vs. pf flame war again, but can netfilter do tcp ack prioritization?
[20:20]<byffyngdjjn>kde works fine on BSDs ??
[20:20]<sazdn>yes
[20:20]<vd2r>freebsd 6.1 detected and installed nearly all of my hardware including nforce4 attached sound and network, something that neither windows nor linux could do.
[20:20]<dffnw>can pf or iptalbes to stateful failover, vrrp etc?
[20:20]<vd2r>pc-bsd is bundled w/ KDE. graphical install and kde enabled and configured once you are done.
[20:21]<byffyngdjjn>interesting
[20:21]<sazdn>openbsds firewall can
[20:21]<sazdn>of course openbsds firewall is slow as poo
[20:21]<srd-i-rd>yeah... CARP
[20:21]<vd2r>there are ports and packages available for freebsd as well for kde.
[20:21]<srd-i-rd>openbsd is not slow at firewalling... just at everything else
[20:21]<gndyvx>mplex: pf-sync i belive is the name
[20:21]<dffnw>yea, I need a fast stateful failover open source solution
[20:21]<gndyvx>with CARP providing the traffic balancing or failover
[20:21]<dffnw>ok
[20:22]<vd2r>openbsd disk used to be alt HORRIBLY slow before softupdates.
[20:22]<gndyvx>aye
[20:22]<vd2r>s/alt/\/
[20:22]<rfv>what?
[20:22]<rfv>ah
[20:22]<srd-i-rd>i dont use openbsd for anything but network i/o
[20:22]<srd-i-rd>it just sucks at everything else
[20:22]<vd2r>yeah that's what it's good for.
[20:22]<srd-i-rd>and about 10 years behind everyone else on filesystem support
[20:22]<vd2r>as a desktop it's horrible, for disk/hardware support it sucks.
[20:22]<vd2r>yeah.
[20:23]<srd-i-rd>but as theo would tell you, its secure! lolz
[20:23]<dffnw>so can it handle 200mbps?
[20:23]<sazdn>theo is another nazi i hate
[20:23]<rfv>you n33s s3ky00r :P
[20:23]<vd2r>it runs on tons of architectures but they don't have enough people coding drivers.
[20:23]<vd2r>mplex: with the right hardware, easily.
[20:23]<dffnw>hmmm
[20:23]<vd2r>my 40MHz ss10 could saturate 100mbps no problem with no ipsec.
[20:23]<byffyngdjjn>linux is still fine for me ...
[20:24]<dffnw>because we are using iptables and it has problems
[20:24]<gndyvx>woo
[20:24]<gndyvx>cisco networkers sessions are now online
[20:24]<vd2r>billie: like I say, different roles. if it is good at the role you need it for, punt.
[20:24]<byffyngdjjn>yes]
[20:24]<2zdsnpzz>nemith: URL?
[20:24]<gndyvx>well if you attended
[20:24]<gndyvx>networkersonline.net
[20:25]<gndyvx>you ahve to login
[20:25]<dffnw>oh, well if
[20:25]<sdac2jd>Or if you pay nemith 50.00 he will share his login
[20:25]<gndyvx>or you can buy access
[20:25]<gndyvx>for like 200 bucks or something rediculous
[20:25]<dffnw>or I can get my rep to get it for free
[20:25]<sdac2jd>with a 25.00 Fee to sickboy for setting up the broker
[20:27]<sdac2jd>Ok here is an ethics question: if a company moved you up here to work as a startup, and you have a pending offer, with a 3k Signing Bonus, do you 1. Stay with the startup, 2. Take the other job, and work the startup part time, or 3, Just Bail?
[20:27]<sazdn>tmbg : i'll give you 100$ if you can prove to me a 40mhz ss10 could push 100mbits/sec
[20:28]<vd2r>it can't do it off of disk but it definitely can do it.
[20:28]<sazdn>you stay where you are and buy a bunch of equipment

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