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[00:00]<dffnw>though we barely have any users
[00:03]<gndyvx>i wish we offered ipv6 internet
[00:03]<gndyvx>so i could push for it internally
[00:04]<dzzc1lyvn>heh.
[00:04]<m2r>do you see any demand for that?
[00:05]<gndyvx>uh.. no
[00:05]<gndyvx>:P
[00:05]<gndyvx>but whats a better lab than the production network
[00:07]<fjsvnf>docomo in japan rolled out ipv6 4 years ago in mobile/cell services, actually their research lab passed an rfc some months ago on ipv6 neighbour discovery HMipv6
[00:07]<m2r>heh
[00:10]<sazdn>our devices are near ipv6 ready
[00:10]<sazdn>as in it works but has never had a native ipv6 network to connect to
[00:10]<sazdn>(ie not a tunnel)
[00:11]<sazdn>maybe i can convince sickboy to get ipv6 addresses from his provider to test it
[00:11]<sazdn>nemith so why am i on your shitlist today
[00:12]<gndyvx>heh
[00:12]<gndyvx>driving you crazy eh?
[00:12]<sazdn>yes
[00:12]<sazdn>i dont want to end up like fbh
[00:13]<bsdrgdjg>what, cool?
[00:13]<gndyvx>12:09 <@nemith> i should be studying
[00:13]<gndyvx>12:10 <+Scrye> for what
[00:13]<gndyvx>12:10 <+Scrye> to fail again?
[00:13]<gndyvx>it's personal really
[00:13]<gndyvx>won't lie about that
[00:13]<sazdn>heh
[00:13]<sazdn>that was a joke dude
[00:14]<rnnyn>who needs that...
[00:14]<sazdn>has cisco got ipv6 routing asics yet?
[00:14]<zyvnz_>i thought most of the non-budget stuff did ipv6 in hardware
[00:14]<zyvnz_>they're fairly ahead of most vendors there
[00:15]<rnnyn>who's gonna explain to customer why "ipconfig /all" is showing creepy numbers :-)
[00:15]<gndyvx>Scrye: yes
[00:16]<sazdn>river_ the problem is all the non-hardware stuff out there that would have to do ipv6 in main-cpu
[00:16]<sazdn>meaning throughput = caca
[00:16]<zyvnz_>that's why i said 'in hardware'
[00:16]<gndyvx>CRS-1, 12000, 10720, 1000, 7600, 6500, 3750, and 3560 all have ipv6 in hardware
[00:16]<sazdn>but just the recent sups right
[00:16]<gndyvx>sup 720 and sup 32
[00:16]<gndyvx>correct
[00:17]<sazdn>7200 doesnt have an ipv6 sup?
[00:17]<zyvnz_>our foundry has something like 1/4th throughput of ipv6 packets vs ipv4
[00:17]<zyvnz_>which is kinda lame
[00:17]<sazdn>or are they finally phasing that stuff out
[00:17]<gndyvx>7200 does everything in software anyways
[00:17]<sazdn>oh yeah duh
[00:17]<zyvnz_>nem: does it? i thought the 7200 stuff was better than that
[00:17]<zyvnz_>(not that i have any experience with it)
[00:17]<sazdn>river_ : look at PPS numbers.. if its above 1 million generally its an ASIC
[00:18]<zyvnz_>i dont know the pps off hand, i just though the 7200 was a better router than that
[00:18]<zyvnz_>do people even sell software routers these days? :P
[00:18]<sazdn>nemith gave me a good link a while ago that had throughput listings of most cisco devices
[00:18]<sazdn>there was a huge jump between the 7200 and 7600 sup 720/32
[00:18]<gndyvx>npe-g2 can do 2mpps
[00:19]<sazdn>is that the 2 cpu one?
[00:19]<gndyvx>npe-g1 and npe-g2 are dual cpu
[00:19]<sazdn>yeah, about 1mpps is the max per cpu at this time
[00:19]<sazdn>hrm, per core i should say
[00:19]<zyvnz_>2mpps?
[00:19]<sazdn>mpps = million packets per second
[00:19]<zyvnz_>our 3560 is rated for 38 mpps
[00:20]<sazdn>3560 is all asic
[00:20]<zyvnz_>right
[00:20]<zyvnz_>but who would buy a 7200 that can do 2mpps?
[00:20]<zyvnz_>when you could buy a 65xx or whatever, which is also asic?
[00:20]<sazdn>cheapasses who need a OC3
[00:20]<sazdn>off ebay
[00:20]<sazdn>does 6500 have a hardware l3 asic?
[00:20]<gndyvx>features, a 7200 will have features first
[00:20]<zyvnz_>i think so, in the linecards
[00:21]<gndyvx>and price
[00:21]<gndyvx>Scrye: 6500 and 7600 are the same platform
[00:21]<gndyvx>and it's all asic
[00:23]<sazdn>has any of the tier-1s announced ipv6 deployment yet?
[00:23]<gndyvx>yes
[00:23]<gndyvx>many of them offer it
[00:24]<sazdn>list?
[00:24]<gndyvx>i lied
[00:24]<gndyvx>the npe-g2 is just one processor
[00:25]<sazdn>cause you are a liar
[00:25]<sazdn>LIAR
[00:25]<sazdn></henry rollins>
[00:25]<zyvnz_>the cogent sales guy i spoke to ealier didn't know if they did v6 or not
[00:25]<zyvnz_>i guess it's not their main market :)
[00:26]<sazdn>cogent are dumb
[00:26]<gndyvx>and the second proc in the npe-g1 isn't generally used
[00:26]<sazdn>god damned retarded
[00:26]<sazdn>one of our customers use cogent for a backbone and you wouldnt believe how hard it is for them to get routing correct
[00:42]<vmjgrxun-frlvjl>hi all
[00:43]<vmjgrxun-frlvjl>what is the easiest way to clear the native vlan on a catalyst 4003 (catos)
[00:44]<vmjgrxun-frlvjl>errr... nevermind
[00:44]<vmjgrxun-frlvjl>found a port doing what i needed....
[00:45]<sazdn>a big magnent
[00:46]<pyzgdgdjg>thats how i do it
[00:46]<vmjgrxun-frlvjl>i would, but it is a little too close to my servers for that :-)
[00:46]<pyzgdgdjg>thats alright :)
[00:46]<sazdn>how about sharks
[00:47]<sazdn>with big freakin laser beams on thier heads
[00:54]<gndyvx> i have no legs
[00:55]<mw9>:)

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