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[05:40]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>Although the ASA 5505 comes preconfigured with two VLANs, you can create a as many as three VLANs, depending on your license. For example, you could create VLANs for the Inside, Outside, and DMZ network segments. Each access switch port is allocated to a single VLAN. Trunk switch ports may be allocated to multiple VLANs.
[05:40]<lgllgzjgy>sorry, i know i don't know what i'm doing, but i'm trying
[05:40]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>With the Base platform, communication between the DMZ VLAN and the Inside VLAN is restricted: the Inside VLAN is permitted to send traffic to the DMZ VLAN, but the DMZ VLAN is not permitted to send traffic to the Inside VLAN.
[05:41]<gndyvx>copy and pasting ftw
[05:41]<vd2r>indeed. he's a google NINJA
[05:41]<gndyvx>aren't we all?
[05:41]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>its from the link above
[05:41]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>idiots
[05:41]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>someone always has to start shit
[05:42]<vd2r>and you always have to get all defensive and blow up about it...
[05:42]<gndyvx>ok?
[05:42]<nyvzrvn>lol
[05:42]<nyvzrvn>do it !
[05:42]<gndyvx>just kiddin
[05:42]<gndyvx>Joshua_Walton: who did you find this part of the world?
[05:43]<mrxmjum>the legend..
[05:43]<vd2r>plz2b making of the english, nemith
[05:43]<gndyvx>tmbg: blah
[05:43]<gndyvx>tv watching + beers + some horrible ssh lag
[05:43]<nyvzrvn>nemith: i'm looking at icon that looks like switch but there's some star-ish object in it....any clue?
[05:44]<gndyvx>Nitrate: noine
[05:44]<vd2r>that's the normal switch icon.
[05:44]<nyvzrvn>let me get pics!
[05:44]<vd2r>it's a bunch of arrows pointing in all directions
[05:44]<nyvzrvn>naw
[05:44]<vd2r>a multilayer switch is like that, with a smaller box underneath it
[05:45]<vd2r>you calling me a liar?
[05:48]<nyvzrvn>http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=joogn4.jpg
[05:49]<gjvndqnzq>heh
[05:49]<gjvndqnzq>cisco makes way too many icons
[05:50]<gndyvx>is that is that atm?
[05:50]<ugvnz_>ass 2 mouth?
[05:50]<nyvzrvn>lol
[05:50]<gndyvx>heh
[05:50]<ugvnz_>cause thats about the same as async transfer network
[05:50]<gjvndqnzq>see if I were making that icon
[05:50]<gjvndqnzq>i'd make it the same, except i'd just put the word "ATM" on it
[05:50]<gjvndqnzq>instead of some crazy picture
[05:51]<ugvnz_>then you would be able to understand it outside of cisco circles
[05:51]<ugvnz_>then the ccie cartel would be broken
[05:51]<nyvzrvn>hell the cisco press book is missing in reference
[05:51]<ugvnz_>and we couldn't command $100,000+ salaries
[05:51]<nyvzrvn>missing the icon*
[05:51]<gjvndqnzq>ahh I see heh
[05:51]<nyvzrvn>why the hell it's there for? :(
[05:51]<gndyvx>Unter_: we?
[05:52]<ugvnz_>s/we/they/
[05:52]<ugvnz_>but still, the point remains
[05:58]<szzvzg>neat, book arrived.
[05:58]<szzvzg>it's a big un
[05:59]<szzvzg>weighs good for my back and the bus ride.
[05:59]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>which one did you get? :o)
[05:59]<szzvzg>CCIE Routing and Switching Exam certification guide, 3rd edition
[05:59]<szzvzg>one of a few that's on my list to g et
[06:00]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>awesome
[06:00]<szzvzg>nah it's not that impressively awesome!
[06:00]<jjsxur_wrfvjg>ok
[06:00]<szzvzg>hehe i have a huge library at home of tech stuff
[06:00]<szzvzg>I've read way too many.
[06:00]<mwan>random question for the ICND1 exam - do you get access to a calculator?
[06:00]<szzvzg>no
[06:01]<mwan>no?
[06:01]<szzvzg>no
[06:01]<mwan>crap
[06:01]<szzvzg>you do in microsoft exams :P
[06:01]<mwan>how the hell am I supposed to remember all the multiples of 4 and /or 8?
[06:01]<mwan>like...4 * 17 :\
[06:01]<nyvzrvn>lol
[06:01]<szzvzg>well
[06:01]<szzvzg>it's unlikely you will need it
[06:02]<mwan>ok, I can work it out on paper, but from my readin i'm supposed to be able to work out resident subnets in like 10/15 seconds
[06:02]<vd2r>you get a whiteboard
[06:02]<szzvzg>subnetting /4's 'how many hsots per net' probably won't come up
[06:02]<vd2r>it had better not come up
[06:02]<vd2r>I'd be furious
[06:02]<szzvzg>class b tops i suppose. they'd be real dicks to make you do any more
[06:02]<mwan>cool, thanks for the insight :)
[06:03]<vd2r>the practice questions you see are as complicated as it should get
[06:03]<szzvzg>1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 8192 16384 32768 65536 should be good enough to do in your head
[06:03]<szzvzg>anything higher than that you should be prepared to sketch out on paper
[06:04]<mwan>one other thing, do you get like 10 minutes after you sit down to...browse the NDA or somesuch?
[06:04]<szzvzg>I'm not saying don't be prepared, I'm saying be familiar both with rapid subnetting and doing it the hard way
[06:04]<szzvzg>yes, 15 i believe.
[06:04]<mwan>was considering brain-dumping all the powers of 2 up to 24
[06:04]<szzvzg>it's good to write out your subnets.
[06:04]<szzvzg>get your wildcard and netmasks too
[06:04]<mwan>right, cool, that's what I was thinking of doing
[06:04]<szzvzg>and remember n-2 =(
[06:05]<mwan>whatabout subnets - 2?
[06:05]<szzvzg>check for ip subnet-zero
[06:05]<vd2r>in cisco tests, they don't use the all ones or zeros subnet
[06:05]<mwan>read about that and it seemed a bit vague...if using classful routing protocol etc
[06:05]<vd2r>so you have to subtract two for your answers
[06:05]<szzvzg>unless it's configured
[06:05]<vd2r>it's outmoded and dumb
[06:05]<vd2r>but it's still like that in the tests.
[06:05]<mwan>tmbg: so it's 2 from hosts and 2 from subnets?
[06:05]<vd2r>yes
[06:05]<mwan>right

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