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[00:00]<lgllgzjgy>heh, ok, i now seee the absurdity of that answer, not what i intended
[00:01]<ldvxnz>pakman_, could you give an example (I've just started connecting to pc together via two switches)
[00:02]<lrcdrg_>if you wanted to limit outgoing traffic to just webbrowsing
[00:04]<rfrrmmys>pyther: one would need to know more details
[00:04]<rfrrmmys>pyther: it's quite possible that switch is a layer 3 switch and is doing the routing
[00:05]<ldvxnz>jlgaddis, ahh ok, yeah I'm not really sure
[00:06]<rfrrmmys>we lease fiber, for example, from a vendor to a couple of other sites. they offered to "manage" it for us and all they were going to do was put in a 3750 at each end and run q-in-q
[00:07]<ldvxnz>Say I had a 4 story building, would I want to put a router on each floor, and then connect all 4 routers to switch, and the switch to a centeral router (that is also connected to the ISP)?
[00:08]<gndyvx>you would never put a router on each floor, but you may layer 3 switch at each floor
[00:08]<gnacj>Wouldn't it be cheaper to install a vlan aware switch on each floor and install a router (or two) centrally?
[00:08]<gndyvx>i don't speak in CCNA'ism eaither
[00:08]<gndyvx>so if you are going for you CCNA.. read a book :)
[00:08]<rfrrmmys>only routed you'd need is for connecting to your isp
[00:08]<rfrrmmys>router
[00:09]<ldvxnz>jlgaddis, so everything else could be done through switches?
[00:09]<rfrrmmys>depending on how many ports per floor, perhaps just access layer switch on each floor feeding back into your core
[00:09]<rfrrmmys>yup
[00:09]<gnacj>You need to consider what you would need your router for in the first place...
[00:09]<rfrrmmys>there's about 900 users in my building and we have a single router
[00:10]<rfrrmmys>we could, in theory, get rid of it
[00:15]<ldvxnz>so then I guess in futher chapters I would learn how to isolate one network, from all the other ones
[00:15]<rfrrmmys>yep, with vlans
[00:16]<ldvxnz>so with a vlan, I can have network 1, just go out to the ISP, and ignore network 2 and 3 right?
[00:17]<gndyvx>you could, but thats not the point of vlans or traffic seperation
[00:17]<rfrrmmys>http://net21.ucdavis.edu/newvlan.htm
[00:19]<dznjzznq6>errrr
[00:19]<dznjzznq6>fucked up a midi cable
[00:21]<ldvxnz>jlgaddis, what would one use to have networks 1 and network 2 comminicate with each other and the ISP, but then have network 3 (public wireless) just comminicate with the ISP and not the other 2 networks?
[00:21]<rfrrmmys>acl's =)
[00:23]<rfrrmmys>pyther: if you have multiple vlan's, you still need a router to move traffic between them
[00:23]<rfrrmmys>a layer 3 switch, however, can do the same job
[00:23]<svznvax>what are the Cisco serial interfaces called?
[00:24]<rfrrmmys>stretch: um, serial interfaces?
[00:24]<svznvax>on WICs
[00:24]<rfrrmmys>what's the interface name, do you mean?
[00:24]<svznvax>there are the small ones, and the larger ones
[00:24]<svznvax>1 sec
[00:24]<rfrrmmys>depends on the router model and slot
[00:24]<gjvndqnzq>i think he's talking about buying one
[00:24]<rfrrmmys>s0, s0/0, s0/1, s1/0, s0/0/0
[00:25]<rfrrmmys>wic's
[00:25]<ldvxnz>Shit I don't get to learn about ACL's until the summer :(
[00:25]<svznvax>my bad I mean the physical interface name
[00:25]<svznvax>http://www.easy-wan.com/Ebaypic/NM4T.jpg
[00:26]<rfrrmmys>those are network modules
[00:26]<svznvax>the name of the physical interface type
[00:26]<svznvax>like RJ-45, etc
[00:26]<rfrrmmys>db60
[00:26]<rfrrmmys>is the connector
[00:26]<svznvax>really? huh, never heard that before
[00:27]<rfrrmmys>http://tinyurl.com/2f55uu
[00:28]<svznvax>thanks
[00:29]<szflzzzmysn>you can have RJ-45 T1s which are serial interfaces
[00:29]<svznvax>yeah I know
[00:29]<svznvax>I'm making a list of all the common interface types
[00:32]<dznjzznq6>lol i have two of those nm-4t's for sale lol ^_^
[00:32]<rfrrmmys>i got seven wic-2t's i can't use that i should probably sell
[00:32]<dznjzznq6>lol
[00:33]<dznjzznq6>i hate those things cuz the cables cost 15 bucks a peice >.<
[00:33]<dznjzznq6>you can buy wic-1dsu-t1's now or 40 bucks shipped on ebay
[00:33]<dznjzznq6>i personally perfer vwic-2mft-t1's
[00:35]<rfrrmmys>these are just for my lab here at home
[00:35]<rfrrmmys>apparently i *could* use the wic-2t's, but the only thing i can put 'em in at 2610's and then i can't put anything else in them, as i understand it
[00:41]<dznjzznq6>since when ?
[00:41]<dznjzznq6>i use wic-2t and wic-1dsu-t1 in the same 2600 router
[00:42]<rfrrmmys>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/107/wic-2t.shtml#features
[00:42]<rfrrmmys>"All other WIC ports on that network module or 2600 chassis must not be used."
[00:43]<rfrrmmys>hmm
[00:43]<dznjzznq6>when both ports are at 2Mbps
[00:43]<dznjzznq6>i mean at 4Mbps
[00:43]<rfrrmmys>or does that mean i could put a wic-2t in the chassis slot, and still put an NM in it?
[00:43]<dznjzznq6>read what it says lol
[00:44]<rfrrmmys>i have numerous times. it's not 100% clear.
[00:44]<dznjzznq6>you cannot run both ports on the wic-2t at 4Mbps and run another wic card
[00:44]<frvfnfv>quick question: when doing a "show int" is the bandwidth always accurate (taking into account things like t1's fractional t1's etc)
[00:44]<rfrrmmys>no
[00:44]<dznjzznq6>no
[00:44]<frvfnfv>bummer...
[00:45]<dznjzznq6>you set the bandwidth manually using the "bandwidth" command under the interface configuration
[00:45]<vd2r>show controllers might be better
[00:45]<dznjzznq6>it does not however limit the bandwidth of the interface
[00:45]<dznjzznq6>that is determined by the clocking end
[00:45]<dznjzznq6>the bandwidth command is used in metric calculation for routing protocols
[00:45]<dznjzznq6>any who basketball games on, time to have a few beers and chill with the guys
[00:46]<rfrrmmys>mgeorge27: would it be possible then, to put in a wic-2t in a chassis slot, and put in say a nm-1e2w and still use the two wic slots in that nm (if i were running the two wic-2t interfaces at < 4mbps)?
[00:47]<dznjzznq6>yes
[00:47]<rfrrmmys>well that's awesome then. thanks a lot.
[00:47]<dznjzznq6>give it a wirl
[00:47]<rfrrmmys>yeah, will do
[00:47]<dznjzznq6>some things you can do some things you cant, cisco isnt very clear with that wic-2t physical limitations >.<
[00:49]<rfrrmmys>hopefully i won't let any magic smoke out =)
[00:49]<dznjzznq6>lol
[00:49]<dznjzznq6>yeah once it gets out you cant put it back in >.<
[00:50]<frvfnfv>is there perhaps an snmp oid that might give me the available bandwidth of our circuits ?
[00:51]<rfrrmmys>fatpelt: i dont think the router really has any way to know
[00:51]<frvfnfv>bummer :(
[00:51]<frvfnfv>ok. thanks!
[00:51]<rfrrmmys>hmm, doesn't even see the nm-1e2w
[00:52]<dznjzznq6>in a 2600 ?
[00:52]<rfrrmmys>yeah

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