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[05:34]<nvzzfzsv_>but when you dereference the array and assume there is more than one element you will crash
[05:34]<zsvzj-->(even when he intentionally draws one out)
[05:35]<zsvzj-->so i thought perhaps my .net installation was hosed in some way
[05:35]<ggmzr>so whats the deal on this .net framework version?
[05:35]<ggmzr>are the applications version independent?
[05:39]<sdffdaxuacdn>just look at the API, or msdn library, or whatever you want to call it
[05:39]<sdffdaxuacdn>it'll detail what exceptions are thrown and under what circumstances
[05:40]<sdffdaxuacdn>and if you can avoid using exceptions by testing it with an if statement, that is usually preferable
[05:55]<rxrcr>well on the plus side, I'm getting used to using reflection
[05:55]<rxrcr>mt
[06:03]<kjr>tobehz: looks like he got klined ;)
[06:10]<vj2nxe>very nice
[06:11]<zgzzcydjvgev>who?
[06:28]<dzrrjgd>Could someone help me convert the WAVEINCAPS/WAVEOUTCAPS structs to C#? so i can use WaveInGetDevCaps?
[06:34]<vj2nxe>pinvoke.net
[06:42]<dzrrjgd>waveingetdevcaps isn't there
[06:49]<zgzzcydjvgev>hey Kog, you there?
[06:49]<zgzzcydjvgev>or anyone else that knows SWF
[06:50]<zgzzcydjvgev>in VS2k5 whats the difference between a "User Control" and "Custom Control" templates?
[07:36]<gyvygsxzgvxzzzd>hey guys, I want your comments, ideas on this project I am working on (beware you need .net 2.0) - it's a program that maps concepts together (nodes) and you can right -click on nodes for wikipedia entries. it's here: http://mindmap.code0.org/
[07:48]<ggmzr>hey
[07:48]<ggmzr>I like it
[07:48]<gyvygsxzgvxzzzd>endra: mindmap?
[07:48]<ggmzr>yes
[07:49]<gyvygsxzgvxzzzd>you saw that you can add nodes right? :)
[07:49]<ggmzr>yes, with the +
[07:49]<gyvygsxzgvxzzzd>cool
[07:49]<ggmzr>I haven't added one yet
[07:49]<ggmzr>can I pm you?
[07:49]<gyvygsxzgvxzzzd>sure
[07:49]<ggmzr>ok
[07:52]<kjr>uh, since when are avians fantasy creatures and not a family
[07:52]<-- wgrvwsygc wrs puy>3) bad = 1;")
[07:54]<zgzzcydjvgev>?
[07:54]<kjr>AnarkiDotNET: why were you asking me about GUIs heh
[07:54]<zgzzcydjvgev>i just needed to know...
[07:55]<kjr>I dunno shit bout it
[07:55]<kjr>what's the answer?
[07:56]<kjr>oh hey, hotel rawanda
[07:56]<zgzzcydjvgev>i dont know
[07:56]<zgzzcydjvgev>i'm installing exchange 2003
[07:56]<kjr>sorry to hear it heh
[07:56]<kjr>I always used Mercury myself
[07:58]<zgzzcydjvgev>Mercury?
[07:59]<lyfuym-wjzc>morning
[08:12]<lyfuym-wjzc>eish
[08:12]<lyfuym-wjzc>Kog how goes
[08:15]<zgzzcydjvgev>hmm
[08:16]<zgzzcydjvgev>whats a good book that describes the process of creating an (extremely) basic operating system (C/C++)
[08:16]<lyfuym-wjzc>AnarkiDotNET embeded?\
[08:16]<zgzzcydjvgev>no
[08:16]<lyfuym-wjzc>hmmm
[08:17]<zgzzcydjvgev>x86
[08:17]<lyfuym-wjzc>then I dunno man
[08:17]<zgzzcydjvgev>like say i want to make something with as much or a bit less functionality as a MSDOS boot disk
[08:17]<zgzzcydjvgev>as a learning project
[08:19]<lyfuym-wjzc>AnarkiDotNET you could use the linux kernel for that
[08:19]<zgzzcydjvgev>no
[08:19]<zgzzcydjvgev>thats way too complex
[08:19]<zgzzcydjvgev>plus i think linux sucks, and yes, i've finally *actually* used it
[08:20]<lyfuym-wjzc>AnarkiDotNET you did not use it properly
[08:20]<lyfuym-wjzc>:D
[08:20]<zgzzcydjvgev>"use it properly" ?
[08:20]<zgzzcydjvgev>so theres a rulebook for how you are supposed to use linux?
[08:20]<zgzzcydjvgev>that makes me like it even less
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>no man
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>you just installed mandrake or some crap
[08:21]<zgzzcydjvgev>no
[08:21]<zgzzcydjvgev>ubuntu
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>omfg
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>even worse
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>install gentoo / archlinux
[08:21]<zgzzcydjvgev>based on the suggestions of other people here and in #apache
[08:21]<lyfuym-wjzc>and we speak again
[08:21]<scyl>rofl
[08:21]<scyl>gentoo
[08:21]<zgzzcydjvgev>.......
[08:22]<zgzzcydjvgev>NOBODY CAN FUCKING AGREE ON A DISTRO OF LINUX
[08:22]<zgzzcydjvgev>so
[08:22]<lyfuym-wjzc>my personal opinion is that gentoo sucks
[08:22]<zgzzcydjvgev>i use NONE, thats what i agree on
[08:22]<lyfuym-wjzc>but its a nice learning distro
[08:22]<lyfuym-wjzc>you need to learn how the compilers etc... works
[08:22]<zgzzcydjvgev>the first two times i tried to use linux i was first told to use debian, then slackware
[08:22]<lyfuym-wjzc>and how the system is put together
[08:22]<lyfuym-wjzc>debian is the route of all evil
[08:23]<zgzzcydjvgev>root**
[08:24]<scyl>AnarkiDotNET: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix
[08:24]<lyfuym-wjzc>AnarkiDotNET dont put a o/s down if you are not compitent on using it to its fully capacity
[08:24]<lyfuym-wjzc>personally I prefer linux / unix over windows
[08:24]<zgzzcydjvgev>i dont
[08:24]<lyfuym-wjzc>but I do alot of development for windows based clients
[08:24]<zgzzcydjvgev>ubuntu was ugly, clunky, and smelled bad
[08:24]<lyfuym-wjzc>so I do not have a choice
[08:25]<lyfuym-wjzc>skip whats your views?
[08:25]<scyl>Liquid-Work: that if you use a hammer to screw in a screw you're a retard







