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[08:26]<scyl>AnarkiDotNET: besides minix, also read up on hurd and posix
[08:27]<lyfuym-wjzc>skip hehe
[08:28]<scyl>I use both linux and windows-based system for desktop-and serverapplications and currently I have no preference over the other
[08:29]<ggmzr>I prefer windows
[08:30]<ggmzr>They've had about 13 years of crashes
[08:30]<ggmzr>They know their stuff.
[08:30]<ggmzr>They can now predict when a crash is going to occur
[08:30]<ggmzr>and replace it with a blue screen
[08:30]<rgmznrs__>math exam in one and a half hour
[08:30]<rgmznrs__>angst
[08:31]<zgzzcydjvgev>lol endra
[08:31]<zgzzcydjvgev>you get bsods?
[08:31]<scyl>ehm
[08:31]<zgzzcydjvgev>i havent gotten a bsod in like 11 months
[08:31]<ggmzr>you speak of it like its a period or something
[08:31]<scyl>ms windows 1.0 was released in 1985
[08:32]<scyl>doesn't that make it 21 years
[08:32]<ggmzr>did it boot up?
[08:32]<scyl>it wasn't an operating system
[08:32]<scyl>it was an extension of ms-dos
[08:32]<ggmzr>it was probly like 2 diskettes
[08:33]<ggmzr>like 3mb of code
[08:33]<ggmzr>like 100,000 lines
[08:33]<ggmzr>made mr. gates a millionaire
[08:33]<scyl>does that matter? gnome has more lines of code than the linux kernel
[08:33]<ggmzr>ive never seen the linux kernel
[08:33]<ggmzr>nor have I any interest in seeing it
[08:33]<scyl>lucky you
[08:33]<ggmzr>because!
[08:33]<ggmzr>for the simple reason that I do not use linux, and that linux is boring.
[08:33]<scyl>it's a very badly managed piece of development
[08:34]<ggmzr>Its not as fun because instead of saying START
[08:34]<ggmzr>it shows a picture
[08:34]<ggmzr>and I have to press it to see what it does
[08:34]<scyl>a picture is a thousand words
[08:34]<ggmzr>I dont want a thousand words
[08:34]<ggmzr>I want one: START
[08:34]<ggmzr>thats the problem
[08:35]<ggmzr>if you had a button that said DO NOT TOUCH THIS OR YOU WILL BLOW UP, or a small picture that you cant even make out, which would you prefer
[08:35]<ggmzr>:(
[08:35]<ggmzr>Personally
[08:35]<ggmzr>I would make linux look exactly like windows
[08:35]<ggmzr>at least the start menu and right click menus and stuff
[08:35]<scyl>that's possible
[08:35]<scyl>there's a windowmanager that does that, forgot the name
[08:35]<ggmzr>just so if someone decides to use it he wont be like FUCK THIS on his second minute
[08:36]<ggmzr>but to install that windows manager do I have to go to hell and back
[08:37]<ggmzr>I dont know I think linux needs to get their shit together and make a standard for everything
[08:37]<ggmzr>just like windows made a exe file that cna run on each and every version
[08:41]<scyl>i slept 4 hrs and I am wide awake
[08:41]<scyl>something is wrong
[08:43]<lyfuym-wjzc>xpde
[08:43]<lyfuym-wjzc>is the widow manager that make linux look like xp
[08:45]<lyfuym-wjzc>window even
[08:48]<-- wgrvwsygc wrs puy>3) bad = 1;")
[09:01]<zgzzcydjvgev>sweet
[09:02]<zgzzcydjvgev>found a copy of that book by that Tanenbaum guy
[09:09]<lyfuym-wjzc>AnarkiDotNET whats the name of the book?
[09:17]<g0vrrrygn>Tanenbaum is such a cool surname
[09:23]<zndy_wjfnz|afk>skip: that project (xpde) seems kinda dead to me... Latest release is Feb 06, 2005... And their bugmanagment system doesn't resolve in dns
[09:26]<lyfuym-wjzc>xpde.com?
[09:26]<zndy_wjfnz|afk>yeah
[09:27]<zndy_wjfnz|afk>and their irc channel is abandoned
[09:36]<dnscr>Liquid-Work morning
[09:36]<zgzzcydjvgev>Liquid-Work its uhh
[09:37]<zgzzcydjvgev>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_S._Tanenbaum <--there
[09:37]<zgzzcydjvgev>btw he looks like a total nerd
[09:39]<zgzzcydjvgev># Operating Systems: Design and Implementation, ISBN 0136386776
[10:39]<dzrrjgd>is it possible to write a class that Serializes it's self?
[10:40]<vxznrm_>why not?
[10:41]<vxznrm_>to serialize, you only need a serializeable object instance
[10:41]<vxznrm_>nothing stopping you from using "this" within a class to serialize
[10:41]<lcs>this is readonly
[10:41]<lcs>you cannot deserialize to this
[10:42]<vxznrm_>no of course not
[10:42]<lcs>have you ever tried doing that? :)
[10:42]<vxznrm_>but serializing works
[10:42]<lcs>compiler says that you cannot do that because this is readonly
[10:42]<vxznrm_>i know you cant do that ;)
[10:42]<dzrrjgd>but for deserializeing you could create a static method that returns a new object
[10:42]<vxznrm_>dragon, exactly
[10:43]<lcs>and then do element, by element copu
[10:44]<lcs>but this sucks
[10:44]<lcs>is there any way of iterating over all memeber for a class?
[10:46]<vxznrm_>reflection
[10:46]<lcs>oh, so then it might work
[10:46]<lcs>because doing this.something = tmp.something; //and so on
[10:46]<lcs>is not the best thing to do :P
[10:47]<vxznrm_>better than reflection
[10:47]<vxznrm_>reflection is slow
[10:47]<lcs>depends on how often you change your code
[10:47]<vxznrm_>i wouldn't recommend you doing a cloning method using reflectino
[10:47]<vxznrm_>reflection*
[10:47]<lcs>hm
[10:47]<lcs>isnt there any other way?

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