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[04:27]<kjr>no, Marx and Engels didn't start in Russia
[04:27]<cfudsd>marx was jewish german
[04:27]<kjr>Both Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels were german...
[04:28]<kjr>whoops, Friedrich
[04:28]<kjr>davanger: and if you'll recall your history - they started in England after being removed from Germany by the Prussians
[04:28]<mzvzzznz>anyways
[04:28]<mzvzzznz>it doesnt work
[04:28]<kjr>davanger: I'd say that it's never honestly been attempted
[04:28]<mzvzzznz>what was atempted in Russia?
[04:29]<mzvzzznz>what was attempted in china?
[04:29]<mzvzzznz>vietnam
[04:29]<mzvzzznz>cuba
[04:29]<mzvzzznz>?
[04:29]<kjr>davanger: you're going to tell me that what happened in Russia was communism?
[04:29]<kjr>what part of th at was communist?
[04:29]<kjr>just because your stated intentions are for the working class, doesn't make you communist
[04:29]<kjr>it makes you a liar
[04:29]<mzvzzznz>they where a comunist party wherent they?=
[04:29]<kjr>davanger: arguably Cuba is doing ok at it
[04:29]<kjr>davanger: and the Nazis were democratic and socialist
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>or was the comunist part of the name in the party just bs
[04:30]<kjr>davanger: you going to tell me democracy fails because of hitler?
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>LOL
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>yeah cuba is great
[04:30]<kjr>are you going to tell me hitler was socialist?
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>I was born in Cuba
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>Cuba is a piece of shit
[04:30]<kjr>davanger: so were a lot of my friends
[04:30]<mzvzzznz>a world stuck 50 years ago
[04:30]<kjr>davanger: except the ones who moved there from nicuragua
[04:30]<kjr>dude, maybe that has something to do with the fat fucking blockade
[04:31]<kjr>your country can't be rich without resources
[04:31]<mzvzzznz>hey if they would play ball like china they would have those problems now would they
[04:31]<kjr>davanger: but you'll see how things work when Castro dies... it'll be interesting
[04:31]<kjr>what ball? Assassinate Castro?
[04:31]<kjr>that's what the US wants, Castro to die
[04:31]<mzvzzznz>Kog: same thing as in Spain
[04:31]<kjr>just like Arafat
[04:31]<mzvzzznz>after Franco died
[04:32]<mzvzzznz>normal Democratic country
[04:32]<mzvzzznz>well as normal as it can get
[04:32]<kjr>probably
[04:32]<kjr>although, you never know till it happens
[04:32]<mzvzzznz>I live in spain and I know how ppl react to what just to be
[04:32]<kjr>davanger: the other reason the US is pissed is because Castro threw the mafia out
[04:32]<mzvzzznz>same thing in Germany ppl hate comunist
[04:32]<mzvzzznz>once you go through that crap you never want to go back
[04:33]<kjr>davanger: I'm not arguing what was labelled communism didn't suck
[04:33]<nvzzfzsv>that isn't true... 1/2 of the US wants castro dead.. the other 1/2 wants to invite him over and smoke cigars.
[04:33]<kjr>evarlast: I'm obviously talking about official policy
[04:33]<kjr>davanger: you want to talk about the horrors of communism? I'd tell you to ask my family, but they're dead at the moment
[04:34]<kjr>davanger: the Russians killed most of them
[04:34]<mzvzzznz>once Castro is dead there will be a 45mil bridge from the keys to La Habana...
[04:34]<nvzzfzsv>Kog: official policy under which administration. clinton and castro were buddies :)
[04:34]<kjr>davanger: so don't lecture mea bout how shitty "communism" can be
[04:34]<kjr>evarlast: yes, Clinton actually tried to lift the embargo
[04:34]<nvzzfzsv>yup
[04:34]<mzvzzznz>you dont kno jack
[04:34]<nvzzfzsv>cuba is our friends.
[04:34]<kjr>davanger: Jack's sitting on my counter
[04:35]<kjr>davanger: I'd tell you about what my family paid so I could grew up here, but you probably wouldn't care
[04:35]<mzvzzznz>Jack dont know Jack about comunism...
[04:35]<kjr>Jack is a bottle of whisky sitting on my counter
[04:35]<mzvzzznz>wouldnt know about that because thanks to comunism my family lost it all
[04:35]<kjr>once again, just because you call yourself a communist doesn't make you a communist
[04:36]<kjr>if that were true, I'd call myself rich and money would fall from the sky
[04:36]<mzvzzznz>im not a comy budy
[04:36]<mzvzzznz>your the commy lover
[04:36]<mzvzzznz>lol
[04:36]<mupmvz>how many cases of beer in a 1/4 barrel?
[04:36]<mzvzzznz>i can just picture the Feds knoking on his door
[04:37]<mzvzzznz>what happend? the feds knoking on your door?
[04:37]<kjr>yeah, they heard I was talking to a Cubano
[04:37]<kjr>wanted to know if I had any cigars
[04:37]<mzvzzznz>against the embargo...
[04:37]<mupmvz>how many cases of beer in a 1/4 barrel?
[04:37]<mupmvz>bueller
[04:38]<kjr>mufdvr: I dunno, give me a barrel and I'll let you know ;)
[04:38]<kjr>davanger: cause that stops people from smoking them?
[04:38]<kjr>davanger: last I checked the CIA has an open line of credit with Cuban cigar makers
[04:38]<kjr>something about LBJ loving cuban cigars
[04:39]<mzvzzznz>yeah and I can get some kick ass coke on the street infront of the white house...
[04:39]<mzvzzznz>whats your point?
[04:39]<kjr>you asked who knocked on my door, my point was to answer
[04:39]<kjr>dunno why you'd go all the way to the Whitehouse to buy coke, there's plenty in Spain
[04:39]<mzvzzznz>you said some stupid cigar joke
[04:39]<kjr>davanger: ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer...
[04:39]<mzvzzznz>i didnt bring up the cigars up..
[04:40]<mzvzzznz><davanger> what happend? the feds knoking on your door?
[04:40]<mzvzzznz><Kog> yeah, they heard I was talking to a Cubano
[04:40]<mzvzzznz><Kog> wanted to know if I had any cigars
[04:40]<mzvzzznz>real smart
[04:40]<mzvzzznz>yes
[04:40]<kjr>I'm not claiming it was smart, at least read my text
[04:40]<mupmvz>3 cases
[04:40]<zgzzcydjvgev>hahaha ignorant people: <+Mage> seriously dude, saying AMD won't do something to increase its sales is just silly
[04:41]<kjr>davanger: if you're going to personally attack me, do it on accurate information
[04:41]<kjr>davanger: take the time to read my text
[04:41]<mzvzzznz>who is attacking you?
[04:41]<kjr>apparently you don't even read your own text

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