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[18:45]<sdnffdxdlld>stealth, I've already gone through what a vpn is ... that explains how your app will work with it
[18:45]<sdnffdxdlld>and bugger, I just snapped one of the feet off my keyboard :(
[18:46]<azyfm>Blasphemy!
[18:46]<wyfaj>what has that got to do with anything?
[18:46]<wyfaj>that's weak and unconstructive.
[18:46]<svnrfvx>evarlast, sorry perhap i didnt state correctly, what i mean to say is how do you connect to a vpn from a application is it a simple case of banging in the ip of a coomputer in the vpn?
[18:46]<mjzymygo>and accusing me of shooting myself in the foot isn't?
[18:47]<azyfm>heh, "If you view NTVDM.EXE in a hex editor, you'll find the message "Using Yoda on an x86 may be hazardous to your systems' health" buried inside it. "
[18:48]<nvzzfzsv>stealth: most vpns aren't application layer, so you should do nothing with your app. A VPN gives network connectivity, so as long as you can reach the network which you need to reach, things will work.
[18:48]<nvzzfzsv>stealth: i.e. as long as firewalls are open.
[18:48]<nvzzfzsv>stealth: unless of course your "application" does some stuff at a network layer lower than the VPN operates. e.g. crazy direct ethernet stuff.
[18:49]<zyccus>he's just talking to SQL Server, which should be fine...
[18:49]<zyccus>though UDP needs to work for discovery
[18:49]<svnrfvx>everlast: cool thanks! just wanted a confirmation
[18:50]<zyccus>you may find you can't 'see' SQL Server - but try connecting to it by IP\INSTANCE in that case
[18:50]<svnrfvx>rikkus, thanks yeah i'm just making a direct ip connectionn to db
[18:50]<zyccus>k
[18:51]<svnrfvx>lol i have never ever used a vpn
[18:51]<dyguw>smellyhippy: I don't need to, Type.InvokeMember just throws a MissingMethodException if the signature doesn't match.
[18:51]<zyccus>once it's connected, you are supposed to just be able to ignore it - either your machine is now a part of the remote network, on two networks, or your entire network is bridged with the other one... usually
[18:52]<dyguw>stealth: You've asked that question 3 times already. Give it up.
[18:52]<dyguw>Sorry, stealth. Ignore that.
[18:52]<dyguw>Stupid IRC client.
[18:53]<svnrfvx>lol
[18:53]<wyfaj>Moridin8: not really - you mentioned xml/xslt, and all I said that there are consequences in doing so, which seemed to make you angry
[18:53]<svnrfvx>np
[18:54]<sdnffdxdlld>minux, handling the exception is slower than checking for the method ... but if that part of your app isnt speed critical then cool :)
[18:54]<mjzymygo>Wilco: made me angry??? sorry didn't mean to give that impression.
[18:54]<dyguw>smellyhippy: It's during startup :)
[18:54]<sdnffdxdlld>cool :)
[18:55]<sdnffdxdlld>personally if i was doing a plugin loading system I'd do the check so that the app can quickly discard the duff type and move onto the next
[18:55]<dyguw>smellyhippy: So even if I check for the method I would have to throw the same exception if I couldn't find it since I don't want to put the error handling inside the class that loads the assembly. :)
[18:55]<sdnffdxdlld>is it a vital part of the app your loading or just plugins?
[18:55]<dyguw>Entire application :)
[18:56]<dyguw>Sort of. I've explained it 100 times in here already. :)
[18:56]<sdnffdxdlld>then you have your solution :D
[18:56]<dyguw>Indeed =)
[18:58]<rgvjgys`>When i initialise the reader = cmd.executereader();
[18:58]<rgvjgys`>the sqldatareader makes a connection
[18:58]<dyguw>When is C# 3.0 scheduled for release?
[18:58]<rgvjgys`>and when i do the while(reader.Read()) when it get's out of the while
[18:59]<nvzzfzsv>minux: I heard 18months.
[18:59]<rgvjgys`>how do i get its poinster to the start of my table
[18:59]<rgvjgys`>?
[18:59]<dyguw>evarlast: Okay
[18:59]<dyguw>No idea to wait for it then =)
[18:59]<sdnffdxdlld>antonis`, its all explained in many tutorials on the net
[19:00]<rgvjgys`>have read quite alot of them
[19:00]<rgvjgys`>just this bothers me
[19:01]<sdnffdxdlld>whats your loop look like for reading the reader?
[19:01]<wyfaj>minux: second half of next year is the only date I've heard
[19:01]<dyguw>smellyhippy: while(reader.Read())
[19:01]<rgvjgys`>yup
[19:01]<dyguw>wilco: nice, more than a year then
[19:01]<wyfaj>probably
[19:01]<sdnffdxdlld>minux I know what its supposed to look like ;)
[19:01]<dyguw>antonis`: It's not possible to rewind a DataReader
[19:01]<sdnffdxdlld>I was asking what it does look like :P
[19:02]<rgvjgys`>so i have to close it
[19:02]<dyguw>smellyhippy: It looks like that ,he said it before.
[19:02]<rgvjgys`>and connect again?
[19:02]<sdnffdxdlld>ahhh yeah
[19:02]<dyguw>antonis`: You will have to close and reexecute the SqlCommand
[19:02]<wyfaj>or cache the result set
[19:02]<dyguw>Yeah, of course...
[19:02]<sdnffdxdlld>i need a bigger monitor so i can be bothered to read everything hehe ... this screen is too small to be this far away from me
[19:02]<nvzzfzsv>antonis`: or load a DataTable from the DataReader and then use the DataTable's reader... at least if you are on 2.0
[19:02]<dyguw>But that's up to him...
[19:03]<dyguw>smellyhippy: Size? Resolution?
[19:03]<rgvjgys`>hmm
[19:03]<nvzzfzsv>well, if you don't want to stress or DB server you won't keep reading the same data multiple times.
[19:03]<sdnffdxdlld>17" crt 1280 x 1024
[19:03]<dyguw>smellyhippy: okay
[19:03]<sdnffdxdlld>I have a tv plugged in too but the res on that is too low for apps
[19:04]<sdnffdxdlld>yeah my laptop is behind me and i'm remoting into it for the work stuff i'm doing
[19:04]<dyguw>nice
[19:04]<sdnffdxdlld>its a pain in the arse ... i need a dual monitor setup for it at home
[19:04]<sdnffdxdlld>I have one at work
[19:04]<dyguw>I love dual monitor
[19:04]<dyguw>But I dislike working with stationary computers, I prefer laptops.
[19:05]<sdnffdxdlld>I prefere desktops ... they have so much more power
[19:05]<zyccus>you can get pretty powerful laptops these days... it's the keyboards and pointing devices on laptops that annoy me
[19:05]<dyguw>I love the keyboard and touchpad on this HP.
[19:05]<sdnffdxdlld>its the hdd throughput that annoys me
[19:06]<dyguw>Ugh, laptop HDD's are really sloow.
[19:06]<zyccus>well, you can get 7200 RPM drives
[19:06]<sdnffdxdlld>touchpads are nice but a pain for using sql server manager
[19:06]<zyccus>just as fast as desktop ones
[19:06]<zyccus>they're just expensive
[19:06]<dyguw>smellyhippy: hehe
[19:06]<dyguw>rikkus; and they become hot
[19:06]<sdnffdxdlld>rikkus true, but if i wanted to spend that cash i could get 10k ones for a desktop
[19:07]<zyccus>smellyhippy: but you couldn't warm your lap with it... unless you wanted to crush it too
[19:07]<sdnffdxdlld>lol but my tower keeps my feet warm ;)
[19:07]<sdnffdxdlld>in fact i use it to heat my living room lol
[19:07]<dyguw>lol
[19:07]<sdnffdxdlld>its amazing how warm it can keep it whilst i'm out

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