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[12:29]<zyccus>they'll change it to corporate boring grey sometime... hopefully
[12:29]<dyguw>I doubt it, they changed the UI from Pre Release 1 to Beta 1 from little blue to much blue
[12:29]<dzzctzrrzg>i want my work to draw the attention, not the bloody program
[12:30]<dyguw>I'll give you a screenshot of Word 2007 Beta 1
[12:30]<zyccus>I use the w2k theme in xp, in grey
[12:30]<dzzctzrrzg>heh
[12:30]<dzzctzrrzg>i'm not quite at that level
[12:30]<dyguw>rikkus: No XP styles
[12:30]<dyguw>?
[12:31]<dzzctzrrzg>i use the xp theme in blue
[12:31]<dzzctzrrzg>but
[12:31]<dzzctzrrzg>it's ick
[12:31]<dyguw>http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/818/word20078wb.png
[12:31]<dyguw>Look at that =)
[12:31]<dyguw>Blue, blue, blue and blue.
[12:31]<dzzctzrrzg>omfh
[12:32]<dzzctzrrzg>that's not toooo bad
[12:32]<dzzctzrrzg>no bloody rounded toolbars and shit
[12:33]<drdyrrr_>you can switch it to black
[12:33]<dzzctzrrzg>i could be convinced to like it
[12:33]<drdyrrr_>but you can't undock those palettes... nor can you reorder them
[12:33]<dyguw>damieng_: How do I change it to black?
[12:33]<drdyrrr_>dunno
[12:33]<drdyrrr_>i only installed it last night
[12:34]<drdyrrr_>but it's defo possible - there are screen shots on the office 2007 developer blog
[12:34]<dyguw>ah, okay
[12:34]<dzzctzrrzg>might be a beta thing, damieng_
[12:34]<dyguw>I installed it last night as well =)
[12:34]<dzzctzrrzg>they're using the same font i'm trying to use
[12:35]<drdyrrr_>Segoue UI ?
[12:35]<dzzctzrrzg>and yes it looks good, but i have to use it against all the old bloody controls
[12:35]<dzzctzrrzg>looks like tahoma to me
[12:36]<dyguw>damieng_: Segoue?
[12:36]<drdyrrr_>http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/12/07/501009.aspx
[12:36]<drdyrrr_>http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/11/28/497441.aspx
[12:36]<drdyrrr_>Segoe
[12:37]<dyguw>Ah, very nice.
[12:37]<dyguw>No more boring fonts.
[12:37]<drdyrrr_>well longhorns font rendering should be better
[12:37]<drdyrrr_>xp's is dire
[12:38]<afd>huh?
[12:38]<afd>damieng_: cleartype is the greatest!
[12:38]<dzzctzrrzg>heheheh http://bancomicsans.com/home.html
[12:38]<drdyrrr_>err, no it isn't.
[12:39]<drdyrrr_>for a start it still doesn't alias vertically
[12:39]<afd>damieng_: did you adjust gamma? ;)
[12:39]<afd>oh
[12:39]<afd>well
[12:39]<drdyrrr_>yes, i've used the cleartype wizard.
[12:39]<drdyrrr_>it's still not a patch on osx's
[12:39]<afd>osx's is blurring
[12:39]<afd>it sux
[12:39]<drdyrrr_>well duh what do you think anti-aliasing is?
[12:39]<dzzctzrrzg>laf
[12:39]<drdyrrr_>http://www.skinyourscreen.com/server/e107_images/articles/mrb-macreview/MacGrab4-Preferences.png
[12:40]<afd>damieng_: no alias, but it should be "crisp"
[12:40]<afd>damieng_: cleartype does exactly that!
[12:40]<drdyrrr_>:D
[12:40]<afd>ok let me see
[12:40]<drdyrrr_>alias is the opposite of crisp
[12:40]<drdyrrr_>it's plotting intermediate "fuzzy" points to smooth out edges.
[12:40]<afd>damieng_: look at the System Preferences
[12:40]<dyguw>Nice, switched to 2000 look in XP and I got a bit more screen space to occupy =)
[12:40]<afd>damieng_: "Appearance"
[12:41]<afd>the left stoke on "p" is fuzzy!
[12:41]<afd>let me show you my windows
[12:42]<drdyrrr_>i'm running windows right now
[12:42]<dzzctzrrzg>heh, that reminds me, the apple font on windows looks great
[12:42]<drdyrrr_>monaco?
[12:42]<dzzctzrrzg>myriad
[12:42]<afd>apple garamond sux on windows :-/
[12:42]<dzzctzrrzg>heh
[12:42]<afd>it's the best seris font i ever seen
[12:42]<dzzctzrrzg>my version of windows looks juuust a little like a mac
[12:42]<afd>damieng_: http://static.flickr.com/40/110535953_d75f2df9c2_o.png
[12:43]<afd>look at the small text in "Display Properties"
[12:43]<dyguw>DarkTrojan: screenshot
[12:43]<afd>it's perfect!
[12:43]<zyccus>OSX's font smoothing does look blurry to me
[12:43]<zyccus>but then I'm used to Windows' and X11's, which give quite sharp looking text
[12:43]<drdyrrr_>you can choose how much aliasing on os x
[12:43]<zyccus>good! :)
[12:43]<drdyrrr_>as well as the minimum font size to alias
[12:44]<afd>damieng_: text of all size should be anti-aliasing
[12:44]<drdyrrr_>you guys are going to hate longhorns font smoothing then
[12:44]<drdyrrr_>adq, no
[12:44]<zyccus>I wouldn't bother with that - fonts at small sizes look better with AA on, IMO - as long as it's decent AA
[12:44]<drdyrrr_>points 6-11 look better unaliased
[12:44]<afd>damieng_: have you ever seen any text printed on paper un-antialiased?!
[12:44]<drdyrrr_>wtf you talking about?
[12:45]<afd>damieng_: the text on monitor should look better than the text on papers! :)
[12:45]<drdyrrr_>Scalable fonts printed on paper are unaliased. they just happened to be rendered at 300-600dpi
[12:45]<dyguw>AqD: We are talking about the screen media, not paper.
[12:45]<afd>damieng_: yes
[12:45]<dzzctzrrzg>myriad web > tahoma :D http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/lankow/myriad.png
[12:45]<drdyrrr_>fonts on a monitor NEVER look better than on paper
[12:45]<drdyrrr_>a monitor only has 96 dpi tops
[12:45]<afd>damieng_: then it's a shame
[12:45]<drdyrrr_>a printer has 300 dpi at worse
[12:45]<drdyrrr_>worst

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