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[16:19]<cjfmfusyjg>ok
[16:19]<dyguw>Bah, you guys are just poor and jealous because you don't have the money to buy it!
[16:19]<dnscr>:D
[16:19]<rzrprrrywr>meska: What? There are other graph types than a pie, line, or bar chart?
[16:20]<cjfmfusyjg>why by when you can crack? ;)
[16:20]<dnscr>Arafangi1n ... no comments on that
[16:20]<dyguw>I refuse to crack my software.
[16:20]<dyguw>I want the real deal.
[16:20]<lcs>minux: table sorting? i think that was present in word/excel 97 :)
[16:20]<lcs>ok, maybe in xp
[16:20]<rzrprrrywr>pks: It was, but it was too easy to stuff up.
[16:21]<cjfmfusyjg>when I get a job and are finished with studdies that will probably be the way to go thou, I dont like the idé of others who can afford to pay not paying ^^
[16:21]<ruyprrruyr>why is this for-statement not allowing me to compile? is this invalid in C#? for (i = 1; i <= 10; i++);
[16:21]<cjfmfusyjg>have you guys talked any about windows vista? I find their hardware requirements damn odd, too large, do they have no memory algoritms at all?
[16:21]<rzrprrrywr>ColdFusion: The only time I need to get software I can't afford is when someone else has mandated that I use a MS product.
[16:21]<dnscr>pks large data, pivot tables, graphs, does this ring a bell ?
[16:21]<rzrprrrywr>ColdFusion: Actually, Vista is the best thing to happen to windows.
[16:21]<dyguw>pks: I haven't mentioned table sorting.
[16:22]<lcs>minux: whats the row limit in excel 2007?
[16:22]<cjfmfusyjg>Arafangi1n, might be, but check those requirements, and also, that they intend to build in hardware stuff to monitor which applications you run etc
[16:22]<lcs>minux: still 65k?
[16:23]<dyguw>pks: Don't ask me, I am not talking about Excel. Meska is.
[16:23]<lcs>w8
[16:23]<rzrprrrywr>ColdFusion: I'm not too fussed about DRM myself, admittably, but design wise, Vista's new design is the best thing that's happened to Vista.
[16:23]<lcs>i am confused
[16:23]<lcs>who started talking about UI in 2007?
[16:23]<lcs>meska or minux?
[16:23]<dyguw>pks: I was talking about the 2007 UI.
[16:23]<dyguw>pks: Meska talked about other things.
[16:23]<xgzjygg>anyway .. has somebody already used PIAs ?
[16:24]<dyguw>Arafangi1n: Of course Vista is the best thing that's happened to Vista. Silly.
[16:24]<rzrprrrywr>Oh damn.
[16:24]<dyguw>=)
[16:24]<cjfmfusyjg>Arafangi1n, which changes is it taht you like so much?
[16:24]<rzrprrrywr>Word 2007 has blogging support.
[16:24]<rzrprrrywr>ColdFusion: A saner API design, no more <censored> shit with DirectX, DirectDraw, GDI, GDI+, etc.
[16:24]<cjfmfusyjg>the programs having to ask for permissions, that part I like :)
[16:25]<cjfmfusyjg>no more sencored? I herd that graphics must go throu DirectX
[16:25]<xgzjygg>Arafangi1n: blogging .. that stuff for kiddies talking about their first boyfriend and how they like cutting themselves ? ;)
[16:25]<dyguw>heroine: Sort of.
[16:25]<rzrprrrywr>heroine: Exactly. That's the first damn result in a google query for "word 2007"
[16:25]<rzrprrrywr>heroine: Therefore that must be the killer application for it
[16:25]<dnscr>but you are smart...
[16:25]<rzrprrrywr>heroine: I guess Frontpage really does suck.
[16:27]<dnscr>this is like slashdot, we can harass microsoft for everything, it's evil, it's bad, even though we haven't tried the product and everything else is waaaaaay better;)
[16:28]<rzrprrrywr>meska: Word 2007 is like a beginners drawing program that produces graphics that can only be viewed with a special $1000 program, that only works on windows.
[16:28]<dyguw>Please excuse me for liking Microsoft applications.
[16:28]<rzrprrrywr>meska: Wait, MS has just produced their own new image format.
[16:29]<dyguw>Word 2007 can save to PDF files directly.
[16:29]<rzrprrrywr>minux: Wow(!)
[16:29]<rzrprrrywr>minux: So can every damn app on a non-windows platform.
[16:30]<xgzjygg>is there a full reference somewhere of PIAs ?
[16:30]<dnscr>Arafangi1n so , are you FORCED to buy it if you need advanced features? No. Period. OO handles simple documents very well.
[16:30]<dnscr>and don't start that slashdot thing again
[16:31]<xgzjygg>I'm stuck with that, trying to find out some full documentation and not only some hello world fucking :/
[16:31]<dyguw>Arafangi1n: Try to be glad. Not my fault you don't have enough money.
[16:31]<rzrprrrywr>meska: How so? What about when Governments, lecturers and your boss just save documents using the default file format, and dammit, you _have_ to read it.
[16:31]<dnscr>ahr here we go again...
[16:32]<dyguw>Arafangi1n: Snap out of it.
[16:32]<dnscr>so it's bad to make business yes .. we need to make our competitors smash us
[16:32]<rzrprrrywr>minux: I have an issue with (1) The upgrade treadmill (2) The extortion, $1000 for an office package? (3) The lack of file format standards
[16:32]<dnscr>don't fucking use it
[16:32]<dnscr>use OO
[16:32]<dyguw>Arafangi1n: Simple, don't fucking use it and stop complaining.
[16:33]<dnscr>95 % of Goverment docs can be opened without distortion in OO
[16:33]<rzrprrrywr>If everyone uses the file format, do I have a *choice* not to use it?
[16:33]<txnjzd>Arafangi1n: someone has to be the first to switch
[16:33]<rzrprrrywr>Theory: And many governments and places _have_ switched - to the OASIS format.
[16:34]<txnjzd>eg?
[16:34]<-- dyrnnprd wrs puyv> i mean the other left <-")
[16:34]<dnscr>if 95% people in my country drive a car, do i have an option not to drive it too ?YES I do, i go to my work on bicycle
[16:34]<dyguw>I need more money to pull this off.. let's write a really nice business concept and go to the bank.
[16:34]<dyguw>Arafangi1n: What the heck is OASIS?
[16:35]<rzrprrrywr>minux: The file format that forced MS's hand to produce an "open" XML format for Word 2007
[16:35]<dyguw>I see.
[16:35]<rzrprrrywr>minux: But they're deliberatly not supporting OASIS.
[16:35]<dyguw>I don't care.
[16:35]<rzrprrrywr>minux: Probably because every other office package is now using it.
[16:36]<txnjzd>OASIS are the Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards.
[16:36]<sdnffdxdlld>thats nice Arafangi1n
[16:36]<txnjzd>they were involved in the development of odf
[16:37]<rzrprrrywr>meska: You would not have an opportunity to drive to work on a bicycle if the roads weren't compatible with it.
[16:37]<rzrprrrywr>meska: As it is, it's a lousy analogy.
[16:38]<dnscr>they are not
[16:38]<dnscr>there are no bicycle paths
[16:38]<rzrprrrywr>meska: But you can still drive on the roads.
[16:38]<rzrprrrywr>meska: Or on the side.
[16:38]<dnscr>on my way to work, but i still don't have a problem with that.
[16:38]<dnscr>and i can still open documents with oo
[16:38]<dnscr>bad analogy?
[16:39]<ruyprrruyr> why is this for-statement not allowing me to compile? is this invalid in C#? for (i = 1; i <= 10; i++);
[16:39]<rzrprrrywr>meska: Can you still open Word 2007 docuemnts with OOo? Heck, can you open Word 2007 documents in office 97?
[16:39]<dnscr>be the first who switches and stop complaining, if feeling need to flaming go to #linux
[16:39]<dnscr>GUIPenguin have you declared i ?
[16:40]<xgzjygg>GUIPenguin: what is the error message ?
[16:40]<rzrprrrywr>meska: I should get some sleep anyway.
[16:40]<xgzjygg>at last, this loop is useless ...
[16:41]<xgzjygg>for (i = 1; i <= 10; i++) DoSomethingWith(i);
[16:41]<ruyprrruyr>oops..lol I put a ; after my method...that was my problem
[16:42]<xgzjygg>you stUpId :)

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