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[15:30]<drdyrrr_>treat your customers like thieves and they'll act like it.
[15:30]<zyccus>minux: but it's not the same as stealing... with stealing, you have to take something away
[15:30]<dyguw>I'll be back in an hour..
[15:30]<dyguw>They use my stuff without a license, I don't like it, they will have to pay.
[15:30]<drdyrrr_>if i can't hear any new music then i won't buy any... i wonder what they're next excuse for poor sales will be after they've killed p2p.
[15:30]<dyguw>How did they sell music before P2P?
[15:31]<drdyrrr_>minux, wtf do you think gives you a right to dictate conditions on what you bless the world with.
[15:31]<drdyrrr_>minux, radio stations played *variety*
[15:31]<mjzymygo>damieng: this has all happened with cassettes... it's just history repeating again
[15:31]<drdyrrr_>not a 20 track playlist for the whole week
[15:31]<dyguw>I have the right to dictate what people may do with something I have created, yes.
[15:31]<txnjzd>20 tracks is all the variety anyone should need!
[15:31]<drdyrrr_>no you dont
[15:31]<dyguw>But I'll be back soon.
[15:32]<mjzymygo>minux: that argument is like "hey, I invented the wheel... everyone can only use it as a hat"
[15:32]<drdyrrr_>or "I invented the alphabet, the sans-serif typeface..."
[15:33]<drdyrrr_>technological evolution is a fast moving stream of ideas and contributions. if you don't like that idea don't contribute.
[15:33]<mjzymygo>minux obviously isn't an over-source/free-ware typa guy ;)
[15:33]<drdyrrr_>indeed
[15:34]<drdyrrr_>i'm not a big open source person either.
[15:34]<mjzymygo>nor me. but I appreciate it for what it is
[15:34]<drdyrrr_>but i think this self-centered "i thought of it first I'm the dictator" is total bullshit.
[15:34]<drdyrrr_>if something you create is truely useful or fun... then somebody else would have created it sooner or later.
[15:35]<mjzymygo>totally.
[15:35]<drdyrrr_>gaps will be filled regardless.
[15:35]<drdyrrr_>enjoy contributing to humanity :)
[15:35]<drdyrrr_>i appreciate copyright law for what it is. I think it should be reduced to a 15 year window.
[15:36]<drdyrrr_>not this lifetime + 75 years crap.
[15:36]<mjzymygo>besides, If I write something and someone else finds it useful, so long as they don't sell it on without letting me know *AND* I get credit for my part of the product, i'm happy
[15:37]<mjzymygo>Yeh.. that lifetime+ is a bit wierd
[15:38]<dyguw>I hate Open Source.
[15:38]<dyguw>And I do everything I can in my everyday life to prevent it from growing bigger.
[15:38]<txnjzd>"everything you can" being really very very little :-)
[15:39]<krffnjs>you hate open source? why?
[15:39]<gjeed>damieng_ i did like you said however im having problems accessing the form to load the Settings will you take a look at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WxZiVb38.html?
[15:39]<mjzymygo>minux: what???
[15:39]<dyguw>Because I can't make money out of Open Source damnit.
[15:39]<mjzymygo>so what?
[15:39]<dnscr>flaming again
[15:39]<dnscr>;)
[15:39]<dyguw>I want money!
[15:39]<dyguw>Money == power
[15:39]<dyguw>I want power
[15:39]<txnjzd>minux: sure you can, you just need more imagination
[15:39]<mjzymygo>power == no life
[15:39]<krffnjs>then you had to learn something other than informatics
[15:40]<txnjzd>anyway, enough of the trollfeeding :-)
[15:40]<dyguw>So, that's why I like copyright laws and dislike OSS.
[15:40]<dyguw>Gotta move some stuff now again.
[15:41]<krffnjs>"No matches were found for 'Dogbertism' "
[15:41]<mjzymygo>kalleos: ever read the Dilbert comic strip?
[15:43]<krffnjs>i dont think so
[15:43]<mjzymygo>www.dilbert.com
[15:43]<own>how do i disbale linking against .NET in MS VS 2005?
[15:43]<dyguw>Owe: EH?
[15:44]<dyguw>Wtf?
[15:44]<mjzymygo>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogbert
[15:44]<own>i just dont want .NET dependencies right now for my C++ project
[15:44]<mjzymygo>then don't create a C++/CLI based project?
[15:44]<own>Moridin8: what is CLI?
[15:45]<own>Moridin8: can i change this afterwards?
[15:45]<mjzymygo>New version of Managed C++?
[15:45]<own>i now have a project, and want no .NET, without setting up everything again
[15:46]<mjzymygo>good luck.
[15:46]<mjzymygo>not sure how to do it. maybe someone else will know?
[15:46]<own>e.g. there is "Use os MFC", but there is no "Use of .NET" option
[15:48]<own>MS VC 2005 perfectly hides the disable option of MFC
[15:48]<own>no, .NET
[15:51]<mjzymygo>Monsieur Moore is getting sued for $85 million... can't believe it...
[15:51]<dyguw>Who is Moore?
[15:51]<dyguw>Intel Moore?
[15:51]<mjzymygo>Michael Moore
[15:51]<own>minux: Roger Moore
[15:51]<dyguw>Don't know who he is Moridin8.
[15:51]<own>played James Bond
[15:51]<mjzymygo>Ever heard of Fareignheit 9/11?
[15:51]<dyguw>Wait, Michael Moore, US movies, 9/11?
[15:52]<dyguw>Ah, yes :)
[15:52]<mjzymygo>yeh
[15:52]<dyguw>Why is he gettings sued+
[15:52]<dyguw>?
[15:52]<dyguw>Owe: Shut up.
[15:52]<mjzymygo>A purple heart solider was interviewed by NBC and 9/11 used the clip in a context the soldier doesn't like. so he's suing for 85 million
[15:53]<mjzymygo>thats like all the net profits of the movie
[15:53]<mjzymygo>or something close
[15:55]<own>demolish the courts then
[16:06]<afd>hi all!
[16:12]<own>if i do static MFC linking, my application may still need the .NET stuff?
[16:13]<y-gz>Anyeone familiar with IDesignerFilter?
[16:14]<y-gz>What do the IDictionaries conatin on the Post* events ?
[16:14]<y-gz>as in are they just empty objects with keys
[16:15]<lyfuym-wjzc>Owe you will not get that to work easily
[16:18]<own>msdn rulez
[16:18]<own>Liquid-Work: ah oh eh :(
[16:22]<own>what is the difference with WinMain with third arg with LPTSTR instead of LPSTR?
[16:24]<lyfuym-wjzc>hmm any south africans here?
[16:24]<afd>Liquid-Work!!!!
[16:25]<lyfuym-wjzc>y0 man
[16:26]<zndy_wjfnz|afk>Liquid-Work: does Dutch count?
[16:26]<lyfuym-wjzc>Remi_Woler well we are starting a development website for south africans

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