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[13:05]<sfuym0>damieng-work: ah
[13:05]<sfuym0>threat: it's not my baby :)
[13:05]<nafylsnz>damieng-work, of course it's possible
[13:05]<nafylsnz>it's just not so easy
[13:05]<sfuym0>Eclipser: please explain
[13:06]<nafylsnz>I'm not saying that I'd know how to do it, it just is possible
[13:06]<nafylsnz>you need to grab yourself the doc file specifications from somewhere
[13:06]<sfuym0>Eclipser: when i read in a .doc as plain text, i get all funny characters all over the place, including between letters of words....
[13:06]<nfna>yes there are some components out there http://www.topshareware.com/SMWordDocument-for-Delphi-CBuilder-download-17021.htm MS Word installed
[13:06]<nfna>is not required)
[13:07]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>Right, first off the doc format isn't "specified" anywhere Eclipser
[13:07]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>it's reverse engineered.
[13:07]<sfuym0>hmm
[13:07]<nafylsnz>damieng-work, MS has specified it, they just haven't shared it to the public
[13:07]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>And if Microsoft, Apple and OpenOffice can't quite get it 100% right, you're screwed.
[13:07]<sfuym0>right
[13:07]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>Eclipser, I remember reading an MS employee blog post that contradicts what you say.
[13:08]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>Which is why some newer versions of Word screw up opening older versions files.
[13:09]<sfuym0>damieng-work: can you find that post?
[13:11]<fyfuym-syfggag>Avidity:
[13:11]<fyfuym-syfggag>dude
[13:11]<fyfuym-syfggag>slut
[13:11]<fyfuym-syfggag>homo fag
[13:12]<wyfaj`>...
[13:12]<fyfuym-syfggag>y0 wilco`
[13:12]<fyfuym-syfggag>Avidity: is still sleeping
[13:12]<fyfuym-syfggag>he left work at 2pm
[13:12]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>It would have been somewhere on blogs.msdn.com
[13:13]<fyfuym-syfggag>damieng-work: ?
[13:13]<sfuym0>elec: that Delphi thing costs #35
[13:13]<sfuym0>that is, $35
[13:13]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>Liquid-Silence, was talking to squid0
[13:13]<sfuym0>j
[13:13]<sfuym0>*k
[13:14]<fyfuym-syfggag>ehy man I am so tired
[13:14]<fyfuym-syfggag>smippy :D
[14:33]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>when working with large amounts of data from a db the best trick is to split the content up and read multiple records.
[14:33]<sdnffdxdlld>DragonD, it uses a fixed width font
[14:33]<mjzymygo>Damieng. Totally =)
[14:33]<mjzymygo>I've done 5 of them
[14:33]<mjzymygo>CMS's
[14:34]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>that way you can start generating the output in chunks while it retrieves the rest of them (providing you're doing a forward scrolling snapshot)
[14:34]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>I've only done one full one and a couple of other mini-editable chunks.
[14:34]<dzrrjgd>i mean the charter width of the window how many charters wide...
[14:34]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>DragonD, the windows console doesn't work like that
[14:34]<sdnffdxdlld>DragonD, I'm not sure ... there may be a property on Console ... have you looked?
[14:35]<mjzymygo>The recent system used a custom light-weight XML parser that interpreted data into template chunks.
[14:35]<mjzymygo>this kept things modular.
[14:35]<mjzymygo>things that changed little were cached and pulled in from the cache.
[14:35]<mjzymygo>dynamic things were rendered on the fly (in-line controls of course).
[14:36]<mjzymygo>The output was fully XML/XSLT complient. and also accessability safe due to the template system
[14:36]<mjzymygo>(XHTML complient)
[14:36]<dzrrjgd>smellyhippy: not really, not important anyways....
[14:36]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>the best thing you could hope for with the console would be to setcursorposition and write over it.
[14:36]<mjzymygo>XSLT was something that could be used on occasions when retrieve data from external systems
[14:37]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>using Console.WindowWidth to work out how much to clear
[14:38]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>we ended up using XSLT to also transform the results from a third party search service.
[14:38]<dzrrjgd>How can i tell is a number is divisable by 100?
[14:38]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>if ((number % 100) == 0)
[14:50]<fyfuym-syfggag>smippy
[14:50]<fyfuym-syfggag>we still use cvs here
[14:50]<wyfaj`>DragonD: which?
[14:50]<wyfaj`>most templates are defined in XML files and can be editted
[14:50]<wyfaj`>like codesnippets etc...
[14:51]<wyfaj`>if you mean normal file/project templates then thats also trivial
[14:51]<dzrrjgd>wilco`: i want to edit the project template for C# console application.
[14:52]<zndy_wjfnz>Say you have the number '0002'. How are those 0's called in english?
[14:52]<wyfaj`>check your VS directory, it's all there somewhere
[14:52]<wyfaj`>leading zeros? :)
[14:52]<zndy_wjfnz>wilco`: tnx
[14:52]<wyfaj`>what's it called in dutch?
[14:53]<zndy_wjfnz>'voorloop nullen'
[14:53]<wyfaj`>never heard that before
[14:53]<zndy_wjfnz>wilco`: you should know, you are dutch :p
[14:54]<wyfaj`>i only pretend to be dutch
[14:54]<sdnffdxdlld>lol
[14:54]<fyfuym-syfggag>lawl
[14:54]<zndy_wjfnz>yeah right. And you even rented an xs4all line so you could get your own pretending hostname for that? :p
[14:55]<wyfaj`>no, because i live in the netherlands
[14:55]<sdnffdxdlld>wb
[14:57]<zndy_wjfnz>You live in the netherlands, but you don't speak dutch? Explain me that one
[14:57]<sdnffdxdlld>I have a friend whos working/living in the hetherlands at the moment but doesn't know dutch
[14:57]<wyfaj`>forget it. i speak dutch and i am dutch.
[14:57]<sdnffdxdlld>-h +n
[14:58]<mjzymygo>I'm not dutch and I don't even speak english very well
[14:58]<wyfaj`>i guess i just dont talk too often with people about numbers such as 0002
[14:58]<wyfaj`>or i guess i just dont talk too often with people
[14:58]<zndy_wjfnz>heh
[14:58]<sdnffdxdlld>bleh i suppose i should go back to work ...
[14:59]<nfna>so noone knows about a sample that uses a system to pregenerate like http://www.niekom.de/fileadmin/pub/WebsiteAufruf.jpg ( sorry it is german but most en words) and the content is only 1 time fetchd from DB based on input like user and urldata
[14:59]<zndy_wjfnz>wilco`: You only see those numbers in math and accounting
[14:59]<wyfaj`>oh really?
[15:00]<wyfaj`>elec: output caching
[15:00]<zndy_wjfnz>wilco`: maybe some science labs use them too. Dunno about that
[15:01]<nfna>you mean like page caching on time expire or event based ?
[15:01]<wyfaj`>it lets you cache stuff based on things such as specific URL parameters, control values, or even custom stuff.
[15:03]<sdnffdxdlld>you can even cache based on SqlDependancy for sql server :D
[15:04]<wyfaj`>can cache on anything theoretically
[15:05]<nfna>could i ask where the cachd page is stord in asp ? or iis ? (jup did see querynotification but i wanna cache the entire page and not ask mssql as sample if you have a page with news and polls and more in 1 it would call 2-x times the sql or not ?)

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