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[01:55]<v2z>pass a reference to bar's constructor maybe?
[01:56]<zndy_wjfnz>tbr: public barClass bar = new barClass(this); <== like this?
[01:57]<v2z>well i was thinking more like (in bar), public BarClass(ref string ParentFoo) { }
[01:57]<v2z>and then pass foo into the constructor
[01:57]<zndy_wjfnz>hmm, I'll play with that. tnx
[01:57]<kuzv>you would all do well to familiarize yourselves with the writings of the eminent 20th-century Russian-American philosopher Ayn Rand
[01:57]<kuzv>she proved, clearly and conclusively, that since A is A, selfishness is the highest of virtues and total free-market capitalism is the only moral system
[01:59]<gfgdggv7w>i think my roommate at one point implied that Ayn Rand was the dumbest person ever born
[01:59]<gfgdggv7w>don't know anything about her myself
[02:00]<ygvgzpgzjg>Element61, your roommate was more or less on target
[02:00]<kuzv>Element61: then your roommate is the dumbest "person" ever born
[02:00]<kuzv>interferon: I defy you to refute a single word she ever said or wrote
[02:01]<gfgdggv7w>" total free-market capitalism is the only moral system" <-- seems like a pretty good tip off that she's stupi
[02:02]<kuzv>Element61: except, it's objectively true
[02:02]<ygvgzpgzjg>Kurt, unrestricted capitalism is a pretty surefire way of destroying a planet
[02:02]<kuzv>Element61: I defy you to refute a single word she ever said or wrote
[02:02]<kuzv>incorrect
[02:02]<gfgdggv7w>hmm well i could go into that whole argument and waste a good chunk of my evening
[02:03]<kuzv>you would do well to familiarize yourself with the writings of the eminent 20th-century Russian-American philosopher Ayn Rand
[02:03]<gfgdggv7w>or i could simply ignore you, since you're clearly also an idiot, andbe done with it
[02:03]<kuzv>she proved, clearly and conclusively, that since A is A, selfishness is the highest of virtues and total free-market capitalism is the only moral system
[02:03]<kuzv>Element61: I defy you to refute a single word I have said here
[02:03]<zndy_wjfnz>Kurt: stop spamming please
[02:03]<ygvgzpgzjg>was this even on-topic? i just got here.
[02:03]<kuzv>I'm not spamming
[02:03]<kuzv>I'm stating objective facts
[02:03]<zndy_wjfnz>interferon: not at all
[02:03]<ygvgzpgzjg>Remi_Woler, just as i suspected
[02:03]<gfgdggv7w>Kurt, I chose option B. Yu're now ignored, ass.
[02:04]<kuzv>wow...another intellectually dishonest coward
[02:04]<ygvgzpgzjg>Kurt, try #ideologies
[02:04]<zndy_wjfnz>Kurt: try #politics. I think there is more room for such a discussion
[02:04]<kuzv>I've been in there for several months
[02:04]<kuzv>I've been in #politics for several years
[02:04]<zgzzcydjvgev>Kurt what do facts have to do with spamming?
[02:04]<kuzv>both are chock-full of irrational whim-worshippers who have rejected reason and reality
[02:04]<ygvgzpgzjg>hehe
[02:04]<zgzzcydjvgev>"Buy V14gr4 now, only $10!" could be a fact
[02:04]<zndy_wjfnz>Kurt: heh
[02:04]<zgzzcydjvgev>its still spam
[02:05]<ygvgzpgzjg>Kurt, you'd do well to familiarize yourself with the /part command
[02:05]<zndy_wjfnz>AnarkiDotNET: that's cheap! Where? :P :P :P
[02:06]<ds2nnzp>hello someone can explain me the major difference between "c / c# , and c++" ?
[02:06]<ygvgzpgzjg>Dsbeerf, "the" major difference?
[02:07]<rxrcr>"One of these things, is not like the others"
[02:07]<gfgdggv7w>C, C#, and C++ areall radically different languages
[02:07]<ygvgzpgzjg>right
[02:07]<gfgdggv7w>C# is only in that group in that it looks the same
[02:07]<gfgdggv7w>it has nothing to do with C and C++ otherwise
[02:08]<lnvnzxu>Kurt: take that discussion elsewhere
[02:08]<ds2nnzp>ok
[02:09]<jrrcrdrg>im russian and i never heard of ayn rand
[02:09]<jrrcrdrg>Dsbeerf: C sucks, C sucks less, C# sucks least
[02:09]<jrrcrdrg>Cpp* in the middle
[02:09]<ygvgzpgzjg>i would say c++ is the worst of the three
[02:10]<ds2nnzp>heh ok
[02:10]<zgzzcydjvgev>i'm going to agree with interferon
[02:10]<gfgdggv7w>C++ has a major identity crisis going on, but i'll take it over C any day
[02:10]<zgzzcydjvgev>just because JackRyan is a douche
[02:10]<zgzzcydjvgev>identity crisis <-- lol
[02:10]<zndy_wjfnz>c++ is only fun to see your little brother struggle with, while you do it easy in C# :p
[02:10]<ygvgzpgzjg>C is useful in lots of situations; C# is convenient for application programming, c++ is really neither
[02:11]<zgzzcydjvgev>C++ is used for games a lot because they have huge budgets and being late for delivery with the game just generates more hype :P
[02:11]<gfgdggv7w>C is good for legacy support, kernels, and mobile/embedded devices
[02:11]<gfgdggv7w>other than those there's no disadvantage to C++
[02:12]<jrrcrdrg>seeing as how Cpp is a proper superset of C89... no
[02:12]<ygvgzpgzjg>Element61, except that it's hideous
[02:12]<zgzzcydjvgev>yep
[02:12]<gfgdggv7w>C ain't exactly beautiful
[02:12]<gfgdggv7w>it's just smaller.
[02:12]<zgzzcydjvgev>C# is far better than either
[02:12]<zgzzcydjvgev>tbh C# is my favourite language out of any of them
[02:13]<jrrcrdrg>until they disprove the general belief dotNET is slower they won't be using it in FPS games
[02:13]<gfgdggv7w>i will (and did) throw my lot in with C#
[02:13]<y-gz>man
[02:13]<y-gz>Hot Shots is cool
[02:13]<ygvgzpgzjg>if your program is big enough that you need features like OO and templates, why not go all-out and bring in GC?
[02:13]<y-gz>they take the piss out of everything
[02:13]<y-gz>lolol
[02:13]<gfgdggv7w>because GC is "slow" oh noes we can't use it
[02:13]<jrrcrdrg>Here's a better reason, dotNET and C# only works 100% in windows
[02:14]<gfgdggv7w>it's too bad I can't talk about the XNA project, because they're making some modifications to .NET that will make it completely suitable for games
[02:14]<gfgdggv7w>JackRyan, it works fine on Mono
[02:14]<gfgdggv7w>albeit a little slower
[02:14]<ygvgzpgzjg>i'm not saying c# is the best choice
[02:14]<jrrcrdrg>it works fine in mono, but mono doesnt have the entire dotnet lib ported
[02:14]<gfgdggv7w>but as far as the game industry goes, nobody cares about non-windows
[02:14]<zgzzcydjvgev>yep
[02:14]<ygvgzpgzjg>but there's really no need to stick so close to the machine unless it's a requirement of your project, e.g. OSes, device drivers, etc.
[02:14]<gfgdggv7w>JackRyan, yes they do. They just don't have the MS extensions completely ported
[02:16]<zgzzcydjvgev>System.Windows.Forms for example
[02:16]<gfgdggv7w>but games -- which are my thing -- don't bother with cross platformness that much anyway
[02:16]<jrrcrdrg>only reason I bought q4 is so i could run it on my linux distro
[02:16]<jrrcrdrg>hmm
[02:16]<jrrcrdrg>maybe we're using different words here, system.windows.forms is still not complete for example
[02:16]<jrrcrdrg>asd
[02:16]<y-gz>mono dev team is working hard on MWF
[02:16]<gfgdggv7w>System.Windows.Forms is an MS extension
[02:16]<jrrcrdrg>Ahhh, my irc broke
[02:16]<y-gz>yes exactly

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