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[11:21]<y-gz>HAH!
[11:21]<y-gz>msdn2
[11:21]<y-gz>Server is too busy
[11:58]<sdnffdxdlld>hmmm tis quiet this mornin
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[12:17]<zzcn>i think this channel needs some <3
[12:17]<zzcn>so, here you go:
[12:17]<zzcn><3
[12:38]<drggga>hello all
[12:40]<drggga>guys how can I get the current user's folder path ?
[12:40]<drggga>I have application that needs to save data on file.. the problem that the user who runs the application have only access to his document folder.. so I want the application to save the file on the current user folder.
[12:40]<drggga>so how can I get the path of the user's folder in c#?
[12:46]<drggga>fuck u I got it ,, thanks for nothing
[12:46]<fjfyvr>is there some easy way to ping hostname (or any other way to check if i is online) ?
[13:25]<lyfuym-wjzc>system.diag.process.start("ping" + "IP")?
[13:27]<zgmz19s><3 is always good
[13:34]<sdnffdxdlld>why do that if your using 2.0 ... theres a ping class
[13:37]<zgmz19s>how reassuring
[13:40]<sdnffdxdlld>lo damieng
[13:41]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>lo
[13:41]<brrvr>hey does anyone know how easy it would be to port my java programs to J#?
[13:43]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=porting+to+j%23&btnG=Search&meta=
[13:44]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>why not go the whole hog and convert to c# ?
[13:45]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=46BEA47E-D47F-4349-9B4F-904B0A973174&displaylang=en
[13:45]<lcs>i think, that logic will still be the same, but all gui stuff has to be rewriten
[13:45]<zzcn><3
[13:54]<sdnffdxdlld>:)
[13:54]<brrvr>true
[13:54]<brrvr>well im still a little apprehensive about these .net things tbh
[14:02]<sdnffdxdlld>bbiam
[14:09]<sdnffdxdlld>Bacta, you'd probably be best of getting into c# and seeing if you like it then converting everything into c# if you do
[14:16]<brrvr>so ppl avoid J# like the plague?
[14:18]<lyfuym-wjzc>anything with java
[14:18]<lyfuym-wjzc>I stay away from
[14:19]<sdnffdxdlld>the only time i've come accross it is a payment service provider who directly ported thier java code so they could offer a ".net solution" the problem was that sucked and provided a very poor .net solution
[14:19]<brrvr>whats wrong with Java :p
[14:19]<sdnffdxdlld>theres nout wrong with java but imo on windows .net is better
[14:19]<sdnffdxdlld>especially with vista coming up
[14:19]<brrvr>bbl :p
[14:19]<lyfuym-wjzc>Bacta the language is ok
[14:19]<lyfuym-wjzc>bu
[14:19]<lyfuym-wjzc>t
[14:19]<lyfuym-wjzc>the virtual machine sucks balls
[14:20]<sdnffdxdlld>Liquid-Work: the VM has been getting better (since .net was performing so well in comparison) but yeah it does still suck balls in places but then it has the advantage of very good protability
[14:20]<sdnffdxdlld>portability
[14:21]<zgzzcygnv>lol
[14:21]<zgzzcygnv>they are *both* VMs
[14:21]<zgzzcygnv>you cant cite portability as a reason to choose one platform over another
[14:21]<zgzzcygnv>Java is more mature and thus has been ported to more platforms, .NET is just catching up, but once it does it will completely overtake Java
[14:21]<sdnffdxdlld>.net dopesnt use a virtual machine ... it converts the code to native code
[14:22]<sdnffdxdlld>and yes portability is a good reason if you need it lol
[14:22]<y-gz>ms won't port it to linux :)
[14:22]<y-gz>lol
[14:22]<y-gz>or to any other nix
[14:22]<zgzzcygnv>*cough*Mono*cough*
[14:22]<sdnffdxdlld>aye but theres mono
[14:22]<zgzzcygnv>i didnt say MS would port it
[14:22]<sdnffdxdlld>and mono is doing very well
[14:22]<zgzzcygnv>i said it would get ported
[14:22]<y-gz>:)
[14:22]<sdnffdxdlld>but .net > mono on windows
[14:22]<y-gz>i know mono is doing well
[14:23]<y-gz>since 2 weeks i am reading bloody lamespec docs and trying to implement stuff for mono
[14:23]<y-gz>i mean ms .net docs
[14:23]<sdnffdxdlld>the msdn is a pain in the arse but theres plenty of atricles around and books
[14:23]<sdnffdxdlld>articles
[14:24]<y-gz>let me tell ya
[14:24]<y-gz>i have em all on my desk
[14:24]<y-gz>:)
[14:24]<y-gz>next to my lappy
[14:24]<y-gz>well i am almost done anyway
[14:24]<y-gz>:}
[14:25]<sdnffdxdlld>aye I have a wall of books in work ... people used to rip the piss because I had so many but they've stopped since they've seen how much I use them and the results I get :P
[14:25]<dzmzaivnz>Hmm. Anyone know how to get ASP.NET to not automatically fill in the form fields on a postback for a page?
[14:25]<sdnffdxdlld>I dont have any mono ones but I do pure windows + .net
[14:26]<y-gz>well mono is .net
[14:26]<y-gz>after all
[14:26]<y-gz>:)
[14:26]<y-gz>as in you do stuff the same way
[14:26]<y-gz>the difference comes when you need to use native libraries
[14:26]<y-gz>you need to be aware of the .dll/.so etc :P
[14:26]<y-gz>such a diff :P
[14:26]<sdnffdxdlld>aye, in general when i'm chatting i use .net to mean ms dotnet
[14:27]<sdnffdxdlld>well in this context
[14:27]<zgzzcygnv>Mono and .NET are both implementations of the CLR
[14:28]<zgzzcygnv>yes! got him
[14:28]<zyccus>Dragnslcr: set them in Page_Load
[14:28]<zgzzcygnv>Sneak attack 4x damage, SLASH!
[14:28]<zyccus>Dragnslcr: or turn off viewstate for them
[14:28]<zgzzcygnv>dead
[14:29]<dzmzaivnz>rikkus: Was that intended for me rather than Dragnslcr?
[14:38]<dzmzaivnz>Hmm. I'm confused. Shouldn't ViewState.Clear() then stop the values of all the controls on the page being persisted across postback?
[14:38]<dzmzaivnz>Because it doesn't seem to be.
[14:40]<zyccus>DRMacIver: yes, sorry
[14:41]<zyccus>DRMacIver: er, never tried viewstate.clear - not sure what it does

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