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[23:46]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-borland You might
[23:46]<2jzfrgm>+well theoretically you could find whatever copy of CSC that visual studio is running and replace it with the mono one
[23:46]<currpurjrv>+Kog: I did tell him that goto is very bad
[23:46]<2jzfrgm>+I can't imagine that would work
[23:46]<2jzfrgm>+without much pain anyway
[23:46]<currpurjrv>+I don't ever use those statements
[23:46]<currpurjrv>+Kog: he was reading from a script
[23:46]<2jzfrgm>+what you could do is create a VC++ makefile project, and set it's make command to be your mono makefile
[23:46]<2jzfrgm>+and fill it full of CS files
[23:47]<2jzfrgm>+you get _some_ syntax hilighting and intellisense if you do that, but only for builtin stuff, it won't recognize your own files
[23:47]<2jzfrgm>+your third option is to write a VS custom addin
[23:48]<kjr>+borland: what, VS doesn't support nAnt yet?
[23:48]<2jzfrgm>+Kog: nope, it supports msbuild instead, but buggered if I know how you'd edit the underlying files...
[23:48]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-borland or use sharpdevelop
[23:49]<kjr>+borland: wait... you're telling me no one has bothered to write a nAnt plug for VS?
[23:49]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-Kog there is a plugin for monorails
[23:49]<kjr>+ok, whatever that is
[23:49]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-so I would think there is for mono itself
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-Kog
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-check out activeRecord
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-its based on nhibernate
[23:50]<kjr>+I know what ActiveRecord is
[23:50]<kjr>+I've used it
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-ah
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-worms told me about it
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-its quite cool
[23:50]<kjr>+it's good for simple stuff
[23:50]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-I actually like nhibernate
[23:50]<cfudsd>+borland, you work at borland?
[23:50]<kjr>+the metaphor starts to fail on more complex stuff
[23:51]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-Kog yeah
[23:51]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-I have not used it to its full capacity
[23:51]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-but
[23:51]<lyfuyd-hjdn>-imo its nice
[23:51]<2jzfrgm>+klumsy: nope
[23:51]<cfudsd>+who here knows that dotnet was originally a borland project ?
[23:52]<currpurjrv>+klumsy: I didn't know that
[23:52]<kjr>+klumsy: considering that Anders wrote Delphi....
[23:53]<zj2nzv2>+Was it really? Maybe Anders Heiljsberg was working on something similar at Borland but it seems like a stretch to say that .NET itself was a Borland project.
[23:53]<cfudsd>+kog, yep :), plus they took about 40 other borland employers too
[23:53]<kjr>+RobertB: MS paid Borland supposedly 100mil
[23:53]<sdnffdxdlld>+c#++
[23:53]<sdnffdxdlld>+SpikeLite karma c#
[23:53]<slycnlyvn>-smellyhippy, karma for c# is 0!
[23:53]<sdnffdxdlld>+grrrr
[23:53]<sdnffdxdlld>+forgot ssymbols lol
[23:53]<kjr>+
ACTION slaps smellyhippy

[23:53]<cfudsd>+robertB, well borland sued MS , and MS gave them 100 million dollars
[23:53]<sdnffdxdlld>+symbols
[23:54]<cfudsd>+in a privte settlement
[23:54]<zj2nzv2>+Why is that -- what was it over at Borland that was all that similar to .NET?
[23:54]<cfudsd>+all over?
[23:55]<cfudsd>+money talks, they gave anders a 3 million dollar sign on bonus also :)
[23:55]<currpurjrv>+It pays to be talented
[23:55]<sdnffdxdlld>+grrrr how do i say everything but this char in regex?
[23:56]<sdnffdxdlld>+nm i think
[23:57]<2jzfrgm>+in VS 2005, does anyone know if there's a "When files change, automatically reload them without annoying me" option? I can't find one
[23:57]<sdnffdxdlld>+c#++
[23:57]<kjr>+kungfugoat: not for us mortals it doesn't
[23:57]<2jzfrgm>+smellyhippy: [^c]
[23:57]<2jzfrgm>+matches everything except c
[23:57]<sdnffdxdlld>+stupid thing ... back to the none null scalar :S
[23:58]<cfudsd>+talent alone can't do it.. often first inventors of something that turns out to be very big don't make much and are often not sucessful.. its a combination of talent, right time, right busienss skills, contacts etc
[23:58]<`lruws>-hi
[23:58]<_slwm1z_>-`LaUxS hi
[23:58]<sdnffdxdlld>+thanks borland
[23:58]<`lruws>-hi
[23:58]<cfudsd>+borland, you a delphi man?
[23:59]<_slwm1z_>-`LaUxS can you change your nick, remove first character
[23:59]<sxrcnd>-hey anyone help me with an xpath query
[23:59]<sxrcnd>-i would like to find the position of an XmlNode
[23:59]<kjr>+klumsy: not necessarily talent
[23:59]<`lruws>-_sp1d3r_ why?
[23:59]<sxrcnd>-<Page id='1'><Section id='1' /><Section id='2' /></Page><Page id='2'> etcetc
[23:59]<kjr>+klumsy: you look at a lot of rich or "successful" people
[23:59]<sdnffdxdlld>+"(?<GoodKarma>\^s+\x2B+)"
[23:59]<sxrcnd>-how can i find the position of Section id='2' inside the Page id='1' node?
[23:59]<kjr>+klumsy: and a lot of them are actually quite stupid and boorish

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