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[17:28]<mjzdmdgo|busd>VirusDotNet: yeh there is... go look into the W3C HTML tidy tools
[17:28]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Muddy?
[17:28]<mjzdmdgo|busd>puky?
[17:28]<mjzdmdgo|busd>crappy?
[17:28]<vyzusdjvnev>oh in the options oh ok
[17:29]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>cache coherency
[17:30]<rwyfcygs>Are you going to snarf or snoop then?
[17:31]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>no, this isn't a cache sitting on a memory bus
[17:34]<dzdyzzz-wjzc>you two should get a room.
[17:35]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Damieng: you more of a mumra lover huh?
[17:36]<rwyfcygs>Archaeologists do it in a dark tomb with rotting mummies.
[17:37]<rwyfcygs>Cheetara, to my youthful self, was almost as exciting as the Italian ladies olympic diving team is to me today.
[17:44]<cjmgrug>"rotting mummies" LMAO
[17:49]<vyzusdjvnev>Moridin8|Busy, i can't find it sorry if im being a pain
[17:52]<mjzdmdgo|busd>go to the w3c website...
[17:52]<mjzdmdgo|busd>even sourceforge
[17:52]<mjzdmdgo|busd>can't give you direct link... sorry
[17:53]<vyzusdjvnev>i thought it was already in VS2005 :(
[17:53]<mjzdmdgo|busd>nope
[17:54]<vyzusdjvnev>its just i hate the damn sloppy code it shows when I view the source code in FireFox but its a pain to get that working with vS
[17:59]<frsvfd>anyone here know the best way of skinning an app?
[17:59]<svzz[wjzc]>a skinning knife?
[17:59]<frsvfd>a windows app written in c# .net v2.0
[18:00]<svzz[wjzc]>my lock is 315 in skinnning :P
[18:00]<frsvfd>seriously... any ideas?
[18:00]<maxgg>anyone writing shareware or freeware or whateverware with csharp :D
[18:01]<maxgg>?
[18:01]<cjmgrug>why, dchen?
[18:01]<frsvfd>beagle is written in c#... using mono
[18:01]<frsvfd>that's not my project though
[18:02]<maxgg>CodeRun: I have some questions that usually show up only in shareware
[18:02]<maxgg>like how to shape the plug-in framework
[18:02]<maxgg>and I will support in return any questions related
[18:02]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Smellyhippy is the current xpert on that I think...
[18:02]<maxgg>CodeRun: not sure
[18:02]<mjzdmdgo|busd>but he's busy
[18:03]<maxgg>Fastly: cool
[18:03]<maxgg>who's project is beagle, if you are speaking to me
[18:03]<maxgg>whose
[18:04]<frsvfd>http://beagle-project.org/Main_Page
[18:05]<afffnv_usnz>Anyone done Serial port access in .net 1.1
[18:05]<afffnv_usnz>?
[18:07]<mjzdmdgo|busd>yeh.
[18:07]<mjzdmdgo|busd>it's a bitch
[18:07]<rwyfcygs>Applet_User: Looked at it once, went "eeek" and ran away after briefly trying to port the .NET 2.0 serial class
[18:08]<afffnv_usnz>damn it
[18:08]<afffnv_usnz>thinking the only way is Vb6 as an interface
[18:08]<mjzdmdgo|busd>nononon
[18:08]<afffnv_usnz>using their com objects
[18:09]<afffnv_usnz>how then?
[18:09]<sdnffdxdlld>dchen: I'll be home in 2 hrs or so if you wanna chat about plugin frameworks
[18:11]<sdnffdxdlld>use .net 2.0 instead Applet_User :P
[18:11]<afffnv_usnz>cant :)
[18:11]<mjzdmdgo|busd>why>
[18:11]<afffnv_usnz>not allowed
[18:11]<mjzdmdgo|busd>why?
[18:11]<maxgg>sweet thanks
[18:11]<maxgg>i gotta get off irc to do some work lol
[18:11]<maxgg>brb
[18:12]<afffnv_usnz>the boss said :P doesnt want to use 2.0 for it
[18:12]<sdnffdxdlld>then slap your boss ;)
[18:12]<cjmgrug>but why?
[18:12]<afffnv_usnz>not again
[18:12]<mjzdmdgo|busd>well, in that case you'll just have to use MSComm...
[18:12]<mjzdmdgo|busd>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;823179&Product=vb6
[18:12]<afffnv_usnz>he says it may break the application and it's nearing completion so doesnt want a few more weeks debugging
[18:12]<mjzdmdgo|busd>The boss is a fuckwit
[18:13]<afffnv_usnz>dont tell me :P ive only just started
[18:13]<mjzdmdgo|busd><-- actual experience of 1.1 to 2.0 ports
[18:13]<sdnffdxdlld>tell him doing the serial stuff via 1.1 will result in lots of debugging through interop lol
[18:13]<rwyfcygs>MSComm seriously sucks
[18:14]<afffnv_usnz>Moridin8|Busy that link, is waht i just said to him, use the VB6 com object
[18:14]<afffnv_usnz>but nope
[18:14]<rwyfcygs>You could persuade him to go for an IPWorks serial port component, if he's not adverse to spending money to avoid extra work
[18:15]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Applet_User: so he wont use the MSComm either?
[18:16]<mjzdmdgo|busd>well, if not then you'll have to use the Kernel directly... and THAT is not clean
[18:16]<rwyfcygs>I tell a lie
[18:16]<rwyfcygs>I don't hink IPWorks .NET has a serial component
[18:16]<mjzdmdgo|busd>what is the seriel port going to be talking to anyway?
[18:16]<rwyfcygs>And serial coding using P/Invoke of Win32 APIs? Augh
[18:16]<afffnv_usnz>he doesnt want to:(
[18:17]<afffnv_usnz>ummm Moridin8|Busy a piece of hardware
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Well. Applet_User: THESE are the choices. accept them or not
[18:17]<afffnv_usnz>;) dont think i can say
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>(what sort dummy!)
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>1) use .NET 2.0
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>2) use MSComm
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>3) use kernal
[18:17]<mjzdmdgo|busd>the top two are what microsoft suggest
[18:18]<jnpys>kernel...
[18:18]<mjzdmdgo|busd>anything else is dumb
[18:18]<mjzdmdgo|busd>(jefis... thanks)
[18:18]<afffnv_usnz>yup my thoughts exactly
[18:18]<afffnv_usnz>just making sure
[18:18]<afffnv_usnz>:-)
[18:18]<jnpys>Moridin8|Busy that 10$ from you :-))
[18:18]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Jefis?
[18:18]<afffnv_usnz>Does .NET 2.0 mean a lot of different coding?
[18:19]<mjzdmdgo|busd>Applet: no.

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