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[17:46]<zyccus>"What is the name of the time zone used by Hong Kong?" -> HKT is on the first page
[17:46]<zyccus>How many legs does a bee have? -> first result
[17:46]<dzmzaivnz>Argumentative, aren't you? :)
[17:46]<zndy_wjfnz>8
[17:46]<zyccus>:P
[17:46]<cjmgrug>thanks, rikkus ;)
[17:47]<zyccus>Is VB.NET better than C#? -> Top 10 reasons VB.NET is better than C#
[17:48]<dzmzaivnz>I submit that you have chosen questions whose answers are largely determined by the keywords in them.
[17:48]<dzmzaivnz>i.e. they're not very difficult questions
[17:48]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>SpikeLite Goodle How many legs does a bee have?
[17:48]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>SpikeLite Google How many legs does a bee have?
[17:48]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>SpikeLite google How many legs does a bee have?
[17:48]<slycnlyvn>Result: <b>Bee</b> Alert! Environmental Hazard Detection and Warning : http://www.umt.edu/biology/bees/trivia.htm
[17:48]<sdnffdxdlld>asking him more than once wont help
[17:48]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>=O) *g*
[17:49]<dzmzaivnz>For example "Time zone hong kong" or "legs bee" will also return such
[17:49]<zyccus>DRMacIver: very true... there are certainly many questions which it's hard to get answers to
[17:49]<dzmzaivnz>I'm not saying that google can't answer questions. I'm just saying that it's not very good at compared to its knowledge base. :)
[17:49]<dzmzaivnz>good at it
[17:49]<sdnffdxdlld>I need to put some request checking stuff in
[17:49]<zyccus>What is fifteen metres per second in furlongs per fortnight? -> 90 193.2713 furlongs per fortnight
[17:50]<-- 2yd2nzy xrs fuyv>http://iownmymusic.org/ http://iownmydvds.org/")
[17:50]<dzmzaivnz>That's a special case.
[17:50]<dzmzaivnz>Google has a specific hardwired tool for unit conversion
[17:50]<zyccus>you don't say?
[17:51]<dzmzaivnz>My point is that it's clearly not relevant to the argument. :p
[17:51]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>SpikeLite google Do you understand sarcasm?
[17:51]<slycnlyvn>Result: people can not <b>understand sarcasm</b>@Everything2.com : http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=955625
[17:51]<rwyfcygs>SpikeLite google 24 hectares in acres
[17:51]<slycnlyvn>Result: location : http://training.fws.gov/library/pubs5/ramsar/web_link/locate.htm
[17:51]<sdnffdxdlld>lol
[17:51]<sdnffdxdlld><SpikeLite> Result: people can not understand sarcasm << good answer :P
[17:51]<zyccus>awilkins: I think spikelite needs to learn about the stuff before the first result
[17:52]<sdnffdxdlld>onething ... it doesnt go via the front page it uses the web services so they might nto work quite the same
[17:52]<sdnffdxdlld>SpikeLite google 1 inch in meters
[17:53]<slycnlyvn>Result: Metric and US Equivalents : http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001661.html
[17:53]<sdnffdxdlld>yer
[17:53]<sdnffdxdlld>i'll have to check out if they do a converstion api
[17:55]<dzmzaivnz>I originally read that as a conversation API.
[17:55]<drdyrrr_>great, just what c# needs endless spam bots
[17:55]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>what was the name of that program from ages ago that could pretend to talk to you??
[17:56]<drdyrrr_>Eliza
[17:56]<sdnffdxdlld>alicebot most likly
[17:56]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>THATS the name,...
[17:56]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>it's been bugging me for years that
[17:56]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>thanks Damieng
[17:56]<drdyrrr_>I think Eliza beats any bot by about 30 years
[17:57]<sdnffdxdlld>yer alice was based on that eliza
[17:57]<sdnffdxdlld>iirc
[17:57]<dzmzaivnz>I find they all sound mostly the same.
[17:58]<dzmzaivnz>Just with varying degrees of being really obviously fake. :)
[17:58]<zyccus>alice was based on eliza?
[17:59]<zyccus>is that why they're both rubbish?
[17:59]<sdnffdxdlld>rikkus: wheres your better one?
[17:59]<sdnffdxdlld>;)
[17:59]<zyccus>smellyhippy: hanging around in the year 2095
[17:59]<zyccus>I got someone to have a conversation with 'her'
[17:59]<sdnffdxdlld>oooo the same place as my ToIP
[17:59]<dzmzaivnz>Something like that is on my list of things it might be vaguely fun to try at some point.
[18:00]<sdnffdxdlld>errrr -place+time
[18:00]<zyccus>he believed it for about 50 responses
[18:00]<dzmzaivnz>But I'll probably never get around to it. :)
[18:00]<rwyfcygs>Do you know why he believed it for about 50 responses?
[18:00]<dzmzaivnz>(And if I did I suspect it would prove ever so much harder than I expect and I'll give up)
[18:00]<zyccus>because he asked the right questions :)
[18:00]<zyccus>and because it was IRC, expected some weirdness
[18:00]<rwyfcygs>How did he feel about asking the right questions?
[18:00]<sdnffdxdlld>lol
[18:00]<dzmzaivnz>Ha ha
[18:01]<zyccus>awilkins: Do you like being a robot?
[18:01]<sdnffdxdlld>irc is dimly lit bars of the internet
[18:01]<zyccus>Alice has answers to that kind of question
[18:01]<sdnffdxdlld>+the
[18:02]<dzmzaivnz>smellyhippy: And EFNet is the rough docklands area where you're likely to get stabbed in those bars? :)
[18:02]<sdnffdxdlld>;)
[18:02]<rwyfcygs>I don't know. Do you like being a robot?
[18:08]<sdnffdxdlld>SpikeLite google do you like being a robt?
[18:08]<slycnlyvn>Result: The Electronic Pillory : http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/uncle_pillory.html
[18:08]<sdnffdxdlld>doh
[18:08]<sdnffdxdlld>SpikeLite google do you like being a robot?
[18:09]<slycnlyvn>Result: How I failed the Turing test | BlogCadre : http://www.blogcadre.com/blog/jason_striegel/how_i_failed_the_turing_test_2005_09_04_13_26_29
[18:09]<sdnffdxdlld>hehe
[18:11]<sdnffdxdlld>that link is a pretty good read
[18:11]<dzmzaivnz>Ha. If google keeps throwing out links like that I may have to rescind my comment about its ability to answer vague questions. :)
[18:12]<dzmzaivnz>(Well, not really, as that's an obvious keyword search. But it's still eerily appropriate.)
[18:14]<y-gz>hahaha
[18:14]<y-gz>i am reading that
[18:14]<y-gz>it's great :)
[18:21]<sdnffdxdlld>google is your friend
[18:26]<sdnffdxdlld>Ahhhh a good ranting emailo to the lead dev always helps relive the stress :)
[18:27]<sdnffdxdlld>I even told him if hes lucky I wont unleash nuclear winter upon the world!
[18:27]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>^^^^ ??
[18:27]<drdyrrr_>stress passing gits :p
[18:27]<svzz[wjzc]>hey guyyyyys... i'm doing some... "advanced" OO i think i wonder if my concept here is any possible : http://rafb.net/paste/results/xWoCem13.html
[18:28]<svzz[wjzc]>if yes, what do i miss here
[18:28]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>what you rant about??
[18:28]<drdyrrr_>abstract class Provider<T> { }
[18:28]<mjzymygj|pxjgn>(in conference call... so cam't pay too much attention)
[18:29]<dzmzaivnz>I relieve stress by ranting to friends on IRC. It helps, even if no one is actually listing. :)







