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[14:35]<mj-c>Do you use it a lot?
[14:36]<mj-c>I hate IBM Rational X..something
[14:37]<zyccus>test code == documentation, design == the code itself
[14:37]<mjzymygo>I use UML to diagram a few things, but mostly for post-production doco
[14:37]<mj-c>what about reverse engineering thing? One look at the bastard's 100000000000 lines of code and you know what it's about?
[14:37]<mjzymygo>do-k: as I said, for post prod doco
[14:37]<mj-c>the same here
[14:37]<zyccus>do-k: I can see that would be useful
[14:37]<mjzymygo>too many people try and use it to design the thing before any code is put down
[14:38]<mjzymygo>and I have never seen a UML doc last more than a few weeks.
[14:38]<mjzymygo>it's a waste of time
[14:38]<zyccus>well, they would just get out of sync with the actual code
[14:38]<zyccus>unless you keep going back to fix the doc... which would take too much time
[14:38]<mj-c>it's different with Together -- total autosync everywhere, from both ends
[14:38]<zyccus>sounds useful
[14:39]<mj-c>you can start with UML, or vice versa, do changes in UML, or in code, and everything is AUTO syncronized
[14:39]<mj-c>Plus, OOP patterns are embedded inside
[14:39]<zyccus>that was 10 years ago, though
[14:39]<mj-c>IBM Rationional sucks, Together (purchased by Borland) rocks
[14:41]<mj-c>10 minutes messing with UML, and your client should sign that s/he confirms that it's what s/he really wants :-)))
[14:42]<mj-c>I mean all this use cases and diagrams. I hate to recode all the time they did not understand each other again
[14:55]<y-gz>peterhu: hey. Can I ask an interop question ? :)
[15:17]<fjfyvr>i have file in windows ansi (cp1250) and want to read content and save to mysql database - when i do it i loose all my national characters, any suggestions? (:
[15:21]<rwyfcygs>Make sure the table codepage matches.
[15:23]<fjfyvr>erm.
[15:23]<fjfyvr>but how to set character for database?
[15:23]<fjfyvr>w8
[15:23]<fjfyvr>maybe i know it (:
[15:25]<fjfyvr>is it coallition?
[15:25]<fjfyvr>*collation
[15:25]<rwyfcygs>COLLATION, off the top of my head
[15:27]<fjfyvr>hmm interesting
[15:31]<sxdzz>back....
[15:32]<fjfyvr>how sad
[15:34]<fjfyvr>no collation don't help ):
[15:36]<fyfuym-syfggag>Lolita: what char?
[15:36]<fjfyvr>cp1250
[15:36]<fjfyvr>and cp1250_czech_cs in db
[15:37]<fyfuym-syfggag>fuck I hate threads
[15:39]<fyfuym-syfggag>awilkins: you any good with threads?
[15:41]<fjfyvr>i think it even read file withouth czech characters
[15:41]<fjfyvr>can i character set to readfile?
[15:50]<lrmmdne>what method do I have to use to exit a console application?
[15:51]<fyfuym-syfggag>lighthammer_: dude
[15:51]<fyfuym-syfggag>we are in the some country
[15:51]<fyfuym-syfggag>heh
[15:53]<sxdzz>Liquid-Silence: what are you doing
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>shmar: atm nothing
[15:53]<sxdzz>(with threads)
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>just stuffing around
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>oh
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>nah man jsut fooling around
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>nothing serious
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>I am coding a irc connection library
[15:53]<fyfuym-syfggag>just for fun
[15:54]<rwyfcygs>Threads are ebil
[15:54]<fjfyvr>so how can i read cp1250 file corectly
[15:54]<sxdzz>awilkins: I don't agree... after you reach the paradigm shift... threads are relatively simple to understand...
[15:55]<fjfyvr>i did not find any charset parameter in readfile ...
[15:55]<sxdzz>Liquid-Silence: in c#
[15:55]<fjfyvr>*readAllLines
[15:55]<sxdzz>?
[15:55]<fyfuym-syfggag>no man
[15:55]<fyfuym-syfggag>in php
[15:55]<fyfuym-syfggag>heh
[15:55]<fyfuym-syfggag>ofcourse c#
[15:55]<sxdzz>Liquid-Silence: :D you never know...
[15:55]<fjfyvr>in c#
[15:55]<sxdzz>cool though...
[15:56]<fyfuym-syfggag>hmmm
[15:56]<vxznrm> you wanna read a file with codepage 1250?
[15:56]<fyfuym-syfggag>hold quick
[15:57]<fjfyvr>thread,exactly
[15:57]<vxznrm>create a new Encoding instance that reflects that codepage
[15:57]<fjfyvr>encoding hmm
[15:57]<vxznrm>and pass it to the ctor when creating your StreamReader
[15:57]<fjfyvr>like System.encoding somehting?
[15:57]<vxznrm>yes, System.Text.Encoding
[15:57]<fjfyvr>hmm i will look at it
[15:58]<vxznrm>StreamReader reader = new StreamReader("c:\\thefile.txt", new System.Text.Encoding(1250)); string content = reader.ReadToEnd();
[15:59]<fjfyvr>thanks, look promising (:
[16:08]<fjfyvr>omg fucking users
[16:09]<fyzxvxzddnz_>liquid-silence : hola !
[16:09]<fjfyvr>i trying to make some 'application' here and not to talk 10 minutes about that their can't understand that i wan't allow shares for everyone \:
[16:10]<svzz[wjzc]>Good morning fellas
[16:10]<sxdzz>morning StaZ[work]
[16:10]<fyzxvxzddnz_>hey Staz
[16:15]<-- 2yd2nzy xrs fuyv>http://iownmymusic.org/ http://iownmydvds.org/")
[16:16]<fjfyvr>hmm ):
[16:16]<pfrcnnus>If I have two processes in a function, will both run at the same time or one after another?
[16:17]<fjfyvr>now i need to make array from reader where eachline is one array row \:
[16:20]<izit>I have a datagridview. And a Cellendedit event. on the cellendedit event, I want the next cell in the row to be changed. Can that be done?
[16:31]<sxdzz>bleh
[16:39]<lrmmdne>Tux FREISCHWIMMER!
[16:41]<fyfuym-syfggag>fuck wtf did I actually get into this
[16:41]<fyfuym-syfggag>like rikkus do you have a few minutes?
[16:42]<zyccus>Liquid-Silence: try asking in the channel, but perhaps, yes
[16:42]<fyfuym-syfggag>rikkus: its vb.net stuff
[16:42]<fyfuym-syfggag>:)

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