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[02:10]<gdrn_frmd>we have 4 weeks to cover 20 chapters in our class, is that a realistic venue?
[02:11]<vyzusdjvnnv>if I select a certain thing for a drop down list how can i link it to a value in the db?
[02:11]<ymuggjt0ot>depends on what :)
[02:11]<ymuggjt0ot>m0': so just use threads otherwise.. lol man I'm just saying I would use AsyncCallback unless I had to do something really complex
[02:12]<ymuggjt0ot>from what I've seen I wouldn't recommend manual thread managing for you
[02:13]<d0`>for me why?
[02:13]<d0`>I am pretty comfortable using threads in c
[02:13]<d0`>and java
[02:15]<ymuggjt0ot>because you didnt seem to know about things like blocking...? :)
[02:16]<azyfm>nice_lady: That depends on so many things
[02:23]<vyzusdjvnnv>anyone know?
[02:24]<ymuggjt0ot>?
[02:25]<kjr>nice_lady: just because the class is doing it doesn't mean you can't work faster...
[02:25]<kjr>if you don't feel challenged, ask for more (advanced or otherwise) coursework
[02:30]<azyfm>I think she might be worried that it is too much, not too little
[02:32]<mupmvz_>System.Data.OleDb.OleDbException: [DBNETLIB][ConnectionOpen (PreLoginHandshake()).]General network error. Check your network documentation.
[02:33]<mupmvz_>im getting that when i try to open a db on our domain
[02:33]<mupmvz_>could that be caused by say the firewall on the pc im trying to connect to?
[02:34]<mupmvz_>i can connect to it using a sqlconnection but not having any luck w/ the oledb connection
[02:36]<ymuggjt0ot>fucking phone companies should be banned from using that money they got to fund things they werent supposed to
[02:37]<zgzzcygnv>so, an ethics question:
[02:38]<zgzzcygnv>if there was a closed source but free OS, which was centralized to the point of not allowing any software to run that wasnt written by the maker of the OS...
[02:38]<ymuggjt0ot>http://www.newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm
[02:38]<mupmvz_>actually, i cant connect to the db from my machine using sql management and sql server auth
[02:38]<zgzzcygnv>would that be considered like monopolistic?
[02:39]<mupmvz_>and the db is set too allow remote connections
[02:39]<ymuggjt0ot>no its called oligopoly and collusion
[02:39]<zgzzcygnv>hmm
[02:39]<ymuggjt0ot>err.. actually it is a geographical monopoly
[02:39]<zgzzcygnv>is it illegal though? :)
[02:39]<ymuggjt0ot>I can get only SBC where I live but not Verizon
[02:40]<ymuggjt0ot>they are supposed to share their lines
[02:40]<ymuggjt0ot>but the main problem isnt that, they got paid $200b to lay out new fiber for 86 million people and that never happened
[02:41]<zgzzcygnv>well the concept behind a supercentralized OS is control (obviously) but not over the users
[02:41]<zgzzcygnv>well
[02:41]<zgzzcygnv>its one of those things like communism, *if* it worked the way it does in theory, it'd be great
[02:42]<ymuggjt0ot>hmm wat.. if those fuckin companies dont wire us up, we should break them up and let their CEOs cry
[02:43]<zgzzcygnv>the idea that the OS company creates ALL components of the OS from scratch without trying to be compatible with other companies or anything....*if* they do it "right", it would be much better than any existing OS, however the whole situation has lots of possibility of corruption
[02:43]<ymuggjt0ot>os ? im talking about fiber networking not an OS
[02:43]<zgzzcygnv>i'm talking about an OS...that was the topic
[02:43]<zgzzcygnv>you went off on a rant about SBC
[02:44]<ymuggjt0ot>no I started talking about phone companies first and you started randomly talking about OSes
[02:44]<zgzzcygnv>.....whatever
[02:45]<zgzzcygnv><AnarkiNet> if there was a closed source but free OS, which was centralized to the point of not allowing any software to run that wasnt written by the maker of the OS...
[02:45]<zgzzcygnv><AnarkiNet> would that be considered like monopolistic?
[02:45]<ymuggjt0ot>oh.. yes if everyone was using it
[02:46]<ymuggjt0ot>monopolistic is an economic term
[02:52]<dy>if i have a string like "$512", what's the best way to strip it of the '$'?
[02:52]<dy>in python i'd just do string.strip('$')
[02:53]<[dam]>string.Reaplace("$","");
[02:56]<dy>thanks
[02:57]<dy>interesting i don't seem to have that method
[02:58]<azyfm>it's an instance method
[03:01]<zgzzcygnv>string Something = "$512".Replace("$", "");
[03:10]<dy>right right, strings are immutable
[03:10]<dy>i need that stamped on my forehead
[03:16]<ayd2j>Operator '^' cannot be applied to operands of type 'double' and 'int'
[03:17]<ayd2j>how do i do x^y then
[03:17]<ayd2j>i looked inthe Math class and dont see anything
[03:18]<[dam]>Math.Pow
[03:18]<ayd2j>thanks
[03:20]<drdyrrr>"^" is XOR in C#
[03:20]<ayd2j>oh
[03:20]<ayd2j>whoops :D
[03:21]<zgzzcygnv>anyone here have experiece installing vista beta 2 without a dvd burner?
[03:21]<zgzzcygnv>eg a HDD install
[03:22]<ayd2j>yeah i do
[03:22]<zgzzcygnv>got a link to like a guide or something?
[03:22]<ayd2j>well its pretty simple
[03:23]<ayd2j>you mount the image with a virtual drive such as daemon tools or alcohol 120%
[03:23]<ayd2j>you make sure its the right architecture, ie, x64 if your running x64 windows already, or x32 if your running x32 already, you cant boot x64 in x32, or x32 in x64...wont work
[03:23]<zgzzcygnv>well the problems i ran into before stem from my RAID0 array
[03:23]<pz2>I have experience bombing a Vista install 8 times
[03:23]<ayd2j>did you load your RAID drivers in
[03:24]<zgzzcygnv>because i'm not booting from a DVD theres no option to "press f6 to install third party SCSI or RAID drivers" like with winxp
[03:24]<zgzzcygnv>and yeah during the UI install (starting from within windows) i selected my drivers
[03:25]<zgzzcygnv>meh, well
[03:25]<ayd2j>as i understand, and this may or may not be the best way, but it will work, what you can do is copy the drivers onto the ISO itself
[03:25]<ayd2j>extract ISO, put drivers on, rebuild image
[03:25]<zgzzcygnv>when my new HD gets here in a few days i'll ghost my entire existing HD to the new one and wipe the current (since my RAID-0 of raptors is faster than the new HD
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>i might even dismantle the RAID-0 and try installing vista on just one of the raptors
[03:26]<ayd2j>150GB or 74GB raptors
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>74GB
[03:26]<ayd2j>ash
[03:26]<ayd2j>ah*
[03:26]<ayd2j>put the drivers on dvd
[03:26]<ayd2j>it will load them ;)
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>cant
[03:26]<ayd2j>why
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>no DVD burner
[03:26]<ayd2j>i mean the dvd image
[03:26]<ayd2j>sorry
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>oh
[03:26]<ayd2j>download UltraISO or something, edit the image, stick your drivers in the i386 folder i believe
[03:26]<zgzzcygnv>k
[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>oh, 5:25 gotta get ready for work
[03:27]<kjr>if you've got a linux box sitting around you can mount the ISO
[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>at 5:30
[03:27]<kjr>AnarkiNet: you found a job?
[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>yes

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