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[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>a week ago
[03:27]<kjr>where at?
[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>Taco Del Mar
[03:27]<kjr>ah yes, oceanic tacos
[03:27]<zgzzcygnv>k, be back at about 9:30
[04:09]<sdszff>hello
[04:13]<cjmgrug>question : Is it necessary for a good developer to know UML ?
[04:23]<cjmgrug>am i invisible?
[04:27]<azyfm>Norwegian subtitles for Return of the Sith translated "invincible" as "usynlig", ie "invisible"
[04:30]<kjr>well, just goes to show that norwegians shouldn't be watching movies
[04:36]<suddnzwo>Can I use Microsoft Visual Web Developer to create use the google Web Service and create an online app?
[04:36]<suddnzwo>In C#..
[04:36]<cxrfnm>SummerWO, you should be able to
[04:36]<suddnzwo>I'm trying to find the easist/quickest way to use a web service on a Windows computer?
[04:37]<cxrfnm>you can make a standalone application which can use a web service
[04:37]<cxrfnm>you just need to add web references
[04:37]<suddnzwo>I can do that in C# on Visual Web Dev? I wasn't sure if it's only ASP.NET
[04:38]<cxrfnm>SummerWO, Visual Web Dev is for creating ASP .NET web applications
[04:39]<cxrfnm>you need Visual C# to create standalone apps
[04:39]<cxrfnm>desktop apps
[04:40]<`d0>yea
[04:41]<`d0>if you have the full version though you don't need the others...
[04:41]<suddnzwo>I don't have the full version..
[04:42]<`d0><Arild> why are you using norwigian movies
[04:42]<suddnzwo>So Visual Web Dev will force me to use ASP.NET -- that's annoying. I want to use C# to implement a Google WSDL.
[04:42]<`d0>SummerWO> so you have to download them separated if you want o od different stuff
[04:42]<cxrfnm>SummerWO, download Visual C# Express 2005
[04:42]<`d0>So use Visual C# Express
[04:42]<suddnzwo>Oh, Express does the trick? Thanks.
[04:43]<`d0>thats the free one...
[04:43]<cxrfnm>SummerWO, yes.. good enough for small projects
[04:43]<suddnzwo>Great -- thanks.
[04:44]<`d0>np
[04:46]<azyfm>m0: Because I'm Norwegian
[05:04]<`d0>Arild - ahh I thought your domain is from usa
[05:08]<rgmcxygr>hey, what is <%#
[05:08]<rgmcxygr>i don't get it
[05:08]<cjmgrug>??
[05:11]<rgmcxygr>?? indeed
[05:11]<cjmgrug>where did you get it from? and what has it got to do with c# ?
[05:11]<suddnzwo>Takes a long time to d/l Visual C# Express
[05:12]<rgmcxygr>CodeRun, asp.net
[05:12]<rgmcxygr>when doing code in the page
[05:12]<rgmcxygr>like <head><title><%# ConfigurationManager.... %>....
[05:12]<rgmcxygr>what's the difference between <%# and <%=
[05:13]<cjmgrug>RedChina: to me it looks like an emoticon easter egg.. the '<' is the nose, '%' is the eyes(dunno how) and '#' is the hair... so its a person's face from the side :p
[05:13]<cjmgrug>actually i have no idea.. sorry.
[05:13]<rgmcxygr>lol
[05:13]<rgmcxygr>i just got into asp.net
[05:14]<rgmcxygr>i was thrust into it in my new job
[05:17]<kjr>oh man... MySQL is totally hosed... still
[05:28]<`d0>why wats up koh
[05:34]<y-gz>can callbacks be only static in the context of interop :/
[05:34]<azyfm>what's a callback in the context of your question?
[05:36]<y-gz>typedef void (*xine_event_listener_cb_t) (void *user_data, const xine_event_t *event);
[05:36]<`d0>i-nZ you need to make it a delegate
[05:36]<kjr>`m0: what a crock of horseshit heh
[05:36]<y-gz>private delegate void XineEventHandler (IntPtr data, IntPtr eventArgs);
[05:36]<`d0>lol Kog :)
[05:36]<`d0>i-nZ not private
[05:36]<y-gz>i want it to be private
[05:37]<y-gz>private void HandleEvent (IntPtr data, IntPtr eventArgs) { }
[05:37]<y-gz>and then
[05:37]<`d0>you can't make it private...
[05:37]<y-gz>can't make private waht ?
[05:37]<`d0>for interop it shoiuld be public
[05:37]<y-gz>i can
[05:37]<y-gz>and it works
[05:37]<`d0>public delegate void XineEventHandler (IntPtr data, IntPtr eventArgs);
[05:37]<`d0>hmm
[05:37]<`d0>how can it /
[05:37]<`d0>public delegate uint HDSchedulerCallback(IntPtr pUserData);
[05:37]<y-gz>my question is
[05:37]<`d0>I do this :s
[05:38]<y-gz>if the actual method coresponding to that signature (delegate) can be non-static?
[05:38]<y-gz>in mono i get segfault if it is non-static
[05:38]<azyfm>Mono isn't exactly a reference implementation
[05:39]<y-gz>i am asking a conceptual question
[05:39]<y-gz>is a method which will server as a callback in the C code allowed to be non-static
[05:39]<`d0>Kog you have the worst case scenario running things you don't like :)
[05:41]<`d0>i-nZ it should be non-static
[05:41]<`d0>in my context
[05:41]<azyfm>I think it should be allowed
[05:41]<`d0>i don't see how a callback can be static
[05:41]<`d0>in "C"
[05:41]<`d0>typedef void (*xine_event_listener_cb_t) (void *user_data, const xine_event_t *event);
[05:41]<y-gz>?!?!
[05:42]<y-gz>hmm
[05:42]<y-gz>now i don't know if it is a mono bug
[05:42]<y-gz>or my bug
[05:42]<y-gz>lol
[05:42]<`d0>DEEBUG
[05:42]<kjr>`m0: well... it's not THAT bad
[05:42]<kjr>`m0: but I'm learning some good skills
[05:42]<kjr>`m0: then I need to try to re-optomize the query
[05:43]<`d0>heh
[05:43]<`d0>ya its seems your learning alot from your coworkers fukups :)
[05:50]<suddnzwo>When I change my namespace, why can it no longer find Google.* methods? Using the Google WSDL
[05:52]<azyfm>SummerWO: Because the proxy class generated by VS uses that namespace as well







