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[18:52]<cgdggvgus>bye
[18:52]<cgdggvgus>let's talk later
[18:52]<cfudsd>phd in php, scary
[18:52]<cgdggvgus>klumsy: i don't know what the people is thinking when they say that PHP5 is an OO language
[18:57]<lxzjsvd>php is the devil
[18:58]<cgdggvgus>i have a friend here in guatemala who loves php
[18:58]<cgdggvgus>he use it for everything, even unix daemons
[18:59]<cgdggvgus>you should see him writing a php parser for a log file... poor man
[19:02]<cgdggvgus>well, see people, i want to write a CHM reader in .net (just for hobbie, i have a lot of CHM books and i hate the Windows Help reader)
[19:02]<cgdggvgus>i was thinkin in port libchm to windows without the heavy glibc and write a wrapper for it
[19:03]<cgdggvgus>somebody knows if there is any better way to do it? (i mean, to read natively a chm in windows)
[19:04]<lyfuym-wjzc>I hate you all
[19:04]<2frgcd>hey guys, I'm trying to figure out how to do a 'context menu over-ride', so like, say when I right click on a certain file on my desktop, it has a menu item that when clicked, calls my program to do a specific function, kind of like winzip/winrar with the 'extract to...' etc. items, anyone have an idea?
[19:04]<cgdggvgus>Liquid-Work: you're welcome
[19:05]<cfudsd>watch out liquid, there are people here who code the code for intercontinental ballastic missles, and have the skills to trace your IP address to a GPS coordinate. mwahahaha
[19:05]<cgdggvgus>blanky: maybe adding your application into the file registry of windows?
[19:05]<2frgcd>kementeus, so I've heard, but where?
[19:07]<2frgcd>kementeus, nevermind I think I have some info
[19:09]<cgdggvgus>blanky: could you read VC++ code?
[19:09]<2frgcd>kementeus, yes, that's the article I found on it, I mean, it's in VC++, why you found one?
[19:10]<cgdggvgus>blanky: yep, a very extensive article in codeproject on it
[19:10]<cgdggvgus>is it that what you found?
[19:10]<2frgcd>kementeus, ah really? I found some on codeguru, mind if you link me? no I found it on codeguru
[19:10]<2frgcd>in the forum
[19:16]<cgdggvgus>http://www.codeproject.com/shell/ShellExtGuide1.asp
[19:18]<cgdggvgus>blanky: i hope it would be usefull
[19:18]<2frgcd>thanks kementeus
[19:36]<sdnffdxdlld>http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=700700 <<< lmao
[19:36]<sdnffdxdlld>ALARM!
[19:38]<pz2>can anyone recommend a good book for C# as a web language?
[19:40]<cgdggvgus>frb: did you mean to develop asp.net application for example?
[19:41]<pz2>I'd like a book that focuses more on writing web modules as opposed to standalone apps
[19:46]<cgdggvgus>frb, did you mean webparts?
[19:46]<pz2>I don't know anything, that's why I want a book
[19:46]<pz2>I just know we're moving to asp.net for our web dev platform, away from vb.asp
[19:46]<cgdggvgus>but did you know basic asp.net?
[19:47]<pz2>yes
[19:47]<pz2>oh, no, not .net
[19:47]<pz2>just legacy asp, and I hate it
[19:47]<cgdggvgus>well, i have this book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735622019/sr=8-15/qid=1153327469/ref=sr_1_15/104-7921305-8521553?ie=UTF8
[19:47]<cgdggvgus>it is a good one to start with
[19:47]<cgdggvgus>i bought it and i have the chm version too
[19:48]<pz2>wow, an entire book on ADO.net?
[19:49]<cgdggvgus>yep
[19:49]<cgdggvgus>a really good one
[19:49]<gjrvcxnne>back
[19:49]<cgdggvgus>(frb, it is a asp.net book, not an ado.net; if you want a ado.net i could recommend one too)
[19:50]<pz2>I need both
[19:50]<pz2>we use mssql in our web projects extensively
[19:50]<cgdggvgus>(i need to come back to program in php5, and i don't want to...) :S
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>i wrote a program that speaks to a 'web-service'
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>at some customer sites, they run a proxy
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>the proxy is such that, it operates transparently
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>you open a browser and your dns is pointed to it and then you have to authenticate
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>then it stores a token for that user/workstation and you get a 'session'
[19:52]<cgdggvgus>jivemonkey, aja?
[19:52]<jdvgdjgcgd>and are allowed to browse about
[19:53]<jdvgdjgcgd>my program runs as a service, under the local system account
[19:53]<jdvgdjgcgd>how can i get to my webservice
[19:54]<cgdggvgus>frb: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735621411/sr=1-1/qid=1153327761/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7921305-8521553?ie=UTF8&s=books , http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201758660/sr=1-28/qid=1153327917/ref=sr_1_28/104-7921305-8521553?ie=UTF8&s=books
[19:54]<cgdggvgus>i have both, really good books
[19:54]<jdvgdjgcgd>how can i authenticate to the proxy automatically?
[19:54]<cgdggvgus>the last one is like a deep lecture about ado.net, oriented mainly to ado.net 1.0 but it has a really good introduction about what ado.net could do
[19:55]<jdvgdjgcgd>you think supplying a credential object with the webrequest would do it?
[19:55]<cgdggvgus>jivemonkey, i guess i could be fair enough
[19:57]<jdvgdjgcgd>?
[20:04]<cgdggvgus>could be any slower php ide than zend studio? :S
[20:07]<pz2>kementeus: yes
[20:07]<pz2>kementeus: try Visual Web Developer Express on a non-vista machine
[20:16]<cgdggvgus>even Visual Studio 2005 standard run faster than Zend Studio in this machine
[20:18]<zgzzcygnv>i bet Eclipse is slower than Zend Studio, lol
[20:18]<cgdggvgus>AnarkiNet, even Eclipse is faster than Zend
[20:18]<vyzusdjvnev>I love Eclipse
[20:18]<zgzzcygnv>ah, ok
[20:18]<zgzzcygnv>thats BAD then, lol
[20:19]<cgdggvgus>Anarki, s/slower/faster
[20:19]<cgdggvgus>Eclipse is faster than Zend Studio
[20:19]<cgdggvgus>Zend Studio is really slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[20:19]<hzzmbyv>VirusDotNET, =\ ¬¬
[20:19]<svzz[wjzc]>there must be something bad i'm doing... actually the slowest part of my program is rendering my controls... getting the data is quicker than that!
[20:19]<vyzusdjvnev>>.>
[20:19]<cgdggvgus>and Eclipse is a good one to work with PHP
[20:20]<hzzmbyv>VIm rockz
[20:20]<hzzmbyv>xD
[20:20]<cgdggvgus>PHPEclipse is good, just a little feature-less but it works
[20:20]<cgdggvgus>Vim rulez, but not as an IDE
[20:20]<vyzusdjvnev>I use Eclipse for Javascript, XML
[20:20]<lrdlcyg>evening
[20:20]<cgdggvgus>I like to use SlickEdit with Vim emmulation
[20:20]<wjzc_dnvzfnzf>I'm trying to run a game writtein in VS C# called Flamen: http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=Flamen .... I'm using VS C# Express right now and I'm getting this error: The referenced component 'Microsoft.DirectX' could not be found. ... do I need Professional to have that library?
[20:21]<vyzusdjvnev>no
[20:21]<cgdggvgus>work_metaperl, nop, just install the directx sdk
[20:21]<vyzusdjvnev>do you havr the DirectX SDK
[20:21]<wjzc_dnvzfnzf>oh
[20:21]<wjzc_dnvzfnzf>no, I'm a newbie :)
[20:21]<cgdggvgus>a 350 or more download
[20:21]<wjzc_dnvzfnzf>does Professional come with that? I'm d/l'ing that right now
[20:21]<vyzusdjvnev>no
[20:21]<wjzc_dnvzfnzf>the trial version

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