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[09:01]<vyzusdjvnev>and saying VS will turn out to be flow based on the next VS
[09:01]<zgzzcygnv>um
[09:01]<zgzzcygnv>on /. they call that kind of talk "FUD"
[09:01]<vyzusdjvnev>im dumb i know :(
[09:01]<zgzzcygnv>Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt
[09:01]<zgzzcygnv>eg theyre just making shit up
[09:01]<vyzusdjvnev>yeah i know
[09:02]<zgzzcygnv>omg C# 4.0 will run 5x faster than C++!!!!
[09:02]<zgzzcygnv>lololol!!!
[09:02]<vyzusdjvnev>lol
[09:02]<zgzzcygnv>see its easy to come up with lots of FUD
[09:02]<zgzzcygnv>call the dude or one of the dudes "Elmer FUD"
[09:02]<zgzzcygnv>and see what he says
[09:02]<vyzusdjvnev>lol
[09:03]<vyzusdjvnev>he said RAD
[09:07]<vyzusdjvnev>Liquid-Silence, i know :)
[09:07]<fyfuym-syfggag>you know what?
[09:08]<vyzusdjvnev>i take shit too far
[09:09]<fyfuym-syfggag>stfu and leave there
[09:18]<vyzusdjvnev>sup smellyhippy
[09:19]<fyfuym-syfggag>VirusDotNET lol
[09:19]<fyfuym-syfggag>smellyhippy dude
[09:19]<vyzusdjvnev>what?
[09:19]<fyfuym-syfggag>did you listen to that trac?
[09:19]<fyfuym-syfggag>oi
[09:19]<fyfuym-syfggag>dont what me
[09:19]<vyzusdjvnev>lol
[09:19]<vyzusdjvnev>yeah Liquid-Silence whats so lol?
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>that was fun
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>heh
[09:20]<vyzusdjvnev>hehe
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>bunch of idjit
[09:20]<vyzusdjvnev>dumb fucks
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>btw
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>VirusDotNET I am only going for the interview for that job at 9am
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>:P
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>heheh
[09:20]<vyzusdjvnev>too bad Kog and AnarkiNet didn't go :P
[09:20]<fyfuym-syfggag>asta!
[09:21]<vyzusdjvnev>asta?
[09:22]<vyzusdjvnev>i don't plan to use GTK# anyway just wanted to try it
[09:23]<vyzusdjvnev>Liquid-Silence, good luck on interview
[09:28]<kjr>I don't want to work in Africa particularly
[09:30]<vyzusdjvnev>Kog, no the mono chatroom
[09:30]<kjr>why should I have been in there?
[09:30]<vyzusdjvnev>they said VS Orcas or whatever the next version will be called will be nothing but flow based
[09:30]<vyzusdjvnev>and other shit
[09:31]<kjr>why do I care?
[09:31]<vyzusdjvnev>well is it
[09:32]<zgzzcygnv>who cares?
[09:32]<zgzzcygnv>if it sucks we can just use 2005
[09:32]<fyfuym-syfggag>Kog so you not going to wish me good luck?
[09:33]<kjr>I don't use MSVS, I don't really care heh
[09:33]<kjr>any language that people are too dumb to actually write in, and require an IDE for, troubles me
[09:33]<vyzusdjvnev>Kog so what doe u use?
[09:33]<vyzusdjvnev>do*
[09:34]<kjr>VirusDotNET: whatever I have on hand
[09:34]<kjr>VirusDotNET: once again, IDEs are tools, not crutches
[09:34]<lxzjsvd>you talk like IDEs are meant for dumb people
[09:34]<kjr>I'm getting tired of stating that in here
[09:34]<lyfuym-wjzc>Kog
[09:34]<kjr>phrosty: no, you didn't read what I wrote
[09:34]<vyzusdjvnev>sorry Kog
[09:34]<kjr>Liquid-Silence: yeah?
[09:34]<lyfuym-wjzc>whish me luck fag
[09:34]<kjr>Liquid-Silence: not if you're gonna be a bitch about it ;)
[09:34]<vyzusdjvnev>:P
[09:35]<kjr>Liquid-Silence: good luck
[09:35]<lyfuym-wjzc>K :(
[09:35]<kjr>phrosty: reread my statement about tool vs crutch
[09:35]<lxzjsvd>i understood it first time
[09:36]<kjr>apparently not
[09:36]<lxzjsvd>my message was a response to your first, i had not read your 2nd before hitting enter :P
[09:36]<kjr>ah so
[09:37]<kjr>phrosty: I'm just getting tired of trying to teach people in here common sense shit like that
[09:37]<kjr>phrosty: and my ever least favorite argument about not using GOTO
[09:37]<lxzjsvd>indeed
[09:37]<kjr>phrosty: I can't believe I actually had to tell a guy not to use GOTO
[09:37]<kjr>I almost died from surprise
[09:38]<lxzjsvd>why would you say not to use goto
[09:38]<kjr>you're joking right
[09:38]<kjr>please?
[09:38]<lxzjsvd>it's useful if you want to break out of a deep loop
[09:38]<kjr>I'm not having this conversation ever again
[09:39]<kjr>if ya'll don't know not to use GOTO, then I suggest you subscribe to the ACM
[09:39]<kjr>you don't know what the ACM is?
[09:39]<kjr>phrosty: how old are you?
[09:39]<lxzjsvd>if i knew what it was, it would be quite silly for me to wonder what it is :P
[09:39]<lxzjsvd>20
[09:39]<kjr>hm, not too young
[09:39]<kjr>the ACM is where all the eminent stuff in early computing was done
[09:40]<kjr>if you're going to be a serious programmer, you should go back and re-read their digests
[09:40]<kjr>there's a great paper in there you need to read by Dijkstra
[09:41]<lxzjsvd>just saying, it would be better to teach how to use goto properly than to say never use it
[09:41]<kjr>phrosty: yeah... go try and get a job with some source with any usage of GOTO... tell me how that goes ;)
[09:42]<kjr>phrosty: they'll probably tell you to GOTO the door and not let it hit you in the ass on the way out
[09:42]<kjr>and if they don't? Run for your life, find employers that have a clue ;)
[09:43]<kjr>phrosty: however, as with anything that says "never do this" - you should never do it unless you've got a very strong defense of what you're doing... breaking out of deep loops indicates you need to re-factor
[09:43]<lxzjsvd>indeed it likely does
[09:43]<kjr>rephrase: needing a GOTO to break out of anything means you need to rewrite your source

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