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[19:03]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>but you yourself said self= thought :)
[19:03]<j2y_w>zeroflag: deploying sux on express
[19:04]<cgdggvgus>no, but you need to work for a cause
[19:04]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>oh, we're socielists now? :)
[19:04]<cgdggvgus>not just work to exists...
[19:04]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>socialists, even.
[19:04]<mjzymygo>rikkus: Have you read this? http://msdn.microsoft.com/practices/guidetype/Guides/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnbda/html/daag.asp
[19:04]<cgdggvgus>no, socialism says that you work for the nation, not for you
[19:04]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>that's national socialism
[19:05]<nnzjpfrr>obi_1: true, that's why I'm a student and can afford the full studio... </sarcasm>
[19:05]<cgdggvgus>i would like to speak english very well, then I could debate about your thinking better
[19:05]<cgdggvgus>eng. is not my native language, sorry
[19:05]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: what's your native language?
[19:05]<cgdggvgus>spanish
[19:06]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Hola :)
[19:06]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>Yo sono Griego
[19:06]<cgdggvgus>Console.WriteLine("Hola mundo");
[19:06]<j2y_w>zeroflag: I have student version too :)
[19:06]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>hehehehhe
[19:07]<cgdggvgus>Griego (Greek)
[19:07]<nnzjpfrr>obi_1: I don't because my university doesn't supply me with anything... yet we have to use visual studio.
[19:09]<cgdggvgus>project2501a: but well, anyway, do whatever you want, belive me, you can do whatever you want to, and yes, if you want to be rich and all your thoughs are oriented to that then you'll have a lot of prob to transform in one (at least for a space of time)
[19:09]<j2y_w>zeroflag: strange, from what I've heard having M$ stuff for free on uni is quite easy...
[19:09]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: where are you from?
[19:09]<nnzjpfrr>obi_1: I tried telling that to the people at my uni for years... they just won't listen...
[19:09]<cgdggvgus>a long long history, but I am from Panama, right now working in Guatemala
[19:09]<mjzymygo><(^_^<), <(^_^)>, (>^_^)>
[19:10]<cgdggvgus>Project2501a: and yes, I would like a beer :P
[19:10]<dnscr>anyone into serialport coding?:)
[19:10]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: got paypal?
[19:10]<mjzymygo>meska: been there, done that.
[19:10]<mjzymygo>.NET 2 has classes for it
[19:10]<cgdggvgus>Project2501a: not paypal in this country :(
[19:10]<mjzymygo>1.1 is more fun.
[19:10]<cfudsd>how do you crete a new XmlElement ?
[19:11]<nnzjpfrr>klumsy: tell the document to do it...
[19:11]<dnscr>Moridin8 a bit help then maybe?:)
[19:11]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: carajo
[19:11]<cfudsd>ahh that is right!! thanks
[19:11]<mjzymygo>Meska... maybe. whats ish
[19:12]<dnscr>i have a pbx that sends data through serial .. machine is windows xp. if i connect with HyperTerminal to com1 port
[19:12]<dnscr>i can see the data flowing
[19:12]<dnscr>if i try to do that with net ... nothing happens
[19:13]<dnscr>DataReceived is never raised
[19:13]<mjzymygo>ever thought that something else might be attached to COM1? <-- common
[19:13]<vynvyv>GoatCheez: what was the deal yesterday with you telling me idea/eclipse don't have error highlighting? I really didn't understand your position on that
[19:13]<cgdggvgus>Project2501a: yep, carajo
[19:13]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: do you have DSL services in Guatemala?
[19:13]<gjrvcxnne>here
[19:13]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: paypal es muy stupido
[19:13]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>hey GoatCheez
[19:13]<dnscr>Moridin8 well HyperTerminal + com1 work .. so the problem shouldn't be there..
[19:13]<gjrvcxnne>tieTYT: that wasn't my position... i was saying that i really doubt idea does type checking as you type
[19:13]<mjzymygo>Meska... 1.1 or 2.0?
[19:13]<cgdggvgus>yep, I have DSL services here, and a Wimax connection at home
[19:14]<gjrvcxnne>but, since it was pointed out that it is java only, ok, sure, maybe it can....
[19:14]<vynvyv>GoatCheez: oh. Well when you hit that semicolon, it checks
[19:14]<vynvyv>GoatCheez: ok, just wanted to clear that up
[19:14]<dnscr>Moridin8 2.0
[19:14]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: i worked together with Ricans and Pentejos for like 6 years, so, i don't really have an accent :)
[19:14]<nnzjpfrr>meska: you DID disconnect the ht before connecting with .net?
[19:14]<zyccus>Moridin8: yes, I read that
[19:15]<dnscr>zeroflag yes, i'm not that stupid :)
[19:15]<nnzjpfrr>good, just making sure.
[19:15]<nnzjpfrr>:P
[19:15]<zyccus>Moridin8: I also read this: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000117.html and http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2003/11/18/38178.aspx and http://codebetter.com/blogs/eric.wise/archive/2006/05/24/145393.aspx ...
[19:15]<nnzjpfrr>meska: try playing arround with the connection settings; sometimes you need some strange flag to get anything.
[19:15]<mjzymygo>meska. is the baudrate, databits, parity and the rest set correctly?
[19:15]<cgdggvgus>Ricans = Puerto Ricans, Pentejos = ????
[19:16]<cgdggvgus>good bye rikkus
[19:16]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: do you have DSL services in Guatemala?
[19:16]<cgdggvgus>yep
[19:16]<cgdggvgus>we have DSL services here
[19:16]<cgdggvgus>even I have a Wimax connection at home
[19:16]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>how much is 384kbps line per month, in USD?
[19:16]<nnzjpfrr>argh
[19:16]<nnzjpfrr>where was I/
[19:16]<nnzjpfrr>?
[19:17]<nnzjpfrr>ah right.
[19:17]<dnscr>zeroflag, Moridin8 i thought the same .. but the ones i can set through HyperTerminal, i set in .NET no luck, unless HyperTerminal uses some other default settings and doesn't show them..
[19:17]<nnzjpfrr>I WANT MULTIPLE INHERITANCE!
[19:17]<cgdggvgus>like $49
[19:17]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>wow
[19:17]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>and i thought Greece was expensive.
[19:17]<cgdggvgus>zeroflag: the use c++ or modula2
[19:17]<nnzjpfrr>meska: I think there are some more (strange) settings you can do on the .NET object; not sure how they're called though.
[19:17]<cgdggvgus>no, you should come here... a very expensive country (well, at least in internet connection)
[19:17]<nnzjpfrr>kementeus: c++ has it's flaws as well.
[19:17]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>kementeus: my 384kbs line in greece is like $45/month.
[19:18]<cgdggvgus>i pay $49 at home for my wimax connection
[19:18]<mjzymygo>http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma/archive/2003/11/18/38178.aspx <-- this is TOTAL bullshit
[19:18]<nnzjpfrr><-- 2mbit/192kbit adsl @ 20euro per month + another 20 for the flatrate...
[19:18]<mjzymygo>meska: this worked for me... http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/SerialCommunication.asp every time
[19:19]<vzznfuno90>hey everyone
[19:19]<mjzymygo>if that don't work, I can't help. sorry
[19:19]<mjzymygo>but usually it's down to those settings
[19:19]<vzznfuno90>who knows how to get chinese character working in c#?
[19:19]<mjzymygo>http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000117.html <-- THIS IS complete BULL too
[19:19]<mjzymygo>>_O
[19:19]<dnscr>Moridin8 ok, thanx, i'll try to look

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