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[00:24]<fnzjy>xml and xaml
[00:24]<fnzjy>;p
[00:25]<zdllnz>I have BeginConnect function I want to pass a callback to it. how would I declare it?
[00:25]<lxzjsvd>jscript will be more useful
[00:25]<lxzjsvd>learn that first
[00:26]<fnzjy>lol js ain't useful to me
[00:26]<fnzjy>don't need it
[00:26]<lxzjsvd>be glad you don't make webpages ;)
[00:26]<fnzjy>that's what anthem or ajax is for
[00:26]<fnzjy>i do
[00:26]<fnzjy>and i still don't need it
[00:26]<zgzzcygnv>js is just bloat
[00:27]<fnzjy>i use atlas or anthem
[00:27]<zgzzcygnv>a web page that *needs* JS shouldnt exist
[00:27]<fnzjy>so you don't have to wait for postpacks
[00:27]<zgzzcygnv>it should be done with XAML or as a client side application
[00:27]<lxzjsvd>js is definately bloat, but now that the toilet bowl cleaner has infected so much pages the REAL new tech won't ever get a grip. so we are stuck with js for validating and other crap
[00:27]<zgzzcygnv>-_-
[00:28]<fnzjy>xaml is the shizzy
[00:31]<vj2nxe>f the web
[00:31]<vyzusdjvnev>what AnarkiNet showned me makes me what to use ajax more :)
[00:32]<vj2nxe>ajax is hotness
[00:32]<fnzjy>ajax is cool you should have already been dipping into that pot
[00:32]<fnzjy>;p
[00:32]<vj2nxe>nobody can deny it
[00:32]<vyzusdjvnev>its worth the learning
[00:32]<fnzjy>Atlas or Anthem
[00:33]<vyzusdjvnev>Atlas
[00:33]<vyzusdjvnev>Anthem?
[00:33]<fnzjy>anthem takes advantage of ajax
[00:33]<fnzjy>like atlas
[00:34]<vyzusdjvnev>so whats the diff between both?
[00:34]<fnzjy>look into it
[00:34]<fnzjy>;p
[00:34]<fnzjy>google it
[00:34]<fnzjy>they both have pros and cons
[00:34]<vyzusdjvnev>did
[00:35]<fnzjy>atlas is more widely used i think tho
[00:35]<vyzusdjvnev>everything has pros and cons
[00:36]<22vnax_>Ok, here is the web service that is returning null when I consume a method that returns an array of a custom object. http://www.pastecode.com/1842
[00:36]<22vnax_>Consumed via: CodeSnippet.Service codeSnippetService = new CodeSnippet.Service();
[00:36]<22vnax_>String[] allSnippets = codeSnippetService.GetSnippets();
[00:36]<fnzjy>VirusDotNET: http://www.joel.net/me/weblog.aspx?weblogs_page=2
[00:39]<vyzusdjvnev>one thing I wish I knew how to do is a a random image each time u login or register and shit
[00:39]<vyzusdjvnev>and u had to type in the number to have it work
[00:40]<fnzjy>a captcha
[00:40]<fnzjy>or whatever
[00:40]<vyzusdjvnev>yeah
[00:40]<fnzjy>to stop bots
[00:40]<vyzusdjvnev>mhmm
[00:40]<fnzjy>yeah they have examples everywhere for that
[00:40]<fnzjy>codeproject has some
[00:40]<vyzusdjvnev>i didn't remember the correct name for it
[00:41]<fnzjy>check out the atlas control toolkit and control extenders too
[00:41]<fnzjy>those are sweet
[00:41]<22vnax_>anyone have any ideas? its the codeSnippetService that is null.
[00:41]<fnzjy>they're on asp.net's page
[00:42]<22vnax_>If I run it via a post I get: Invalid attempt to read when no data is present.
[00:42]<vyzusdjvnev>lerio do u use asp.net?
[00:42]<fnzjy>the extenders make the code output or rendering look all nice
[00:42]<fnzjy>VirusDotNET: yes
[00:42]<fnzjy>2.0
[00:42]<vyzusdjvnev>leroi i don't see why i never learned asp.net sooner ;) im glad i don't use php now :)
[00:42]<fnzjy>yeah php sux0r5
[00:43]<vyzusdjvnev>php will never become this good
[00:43]<fnzjy>not afaik
[00:43]<fnzjy>i never liked php
[00:43]<vyzusdjvnev>well afaik but shit i'll never go back unless asp.net dies
[00:43]<fnzjy>never liked CF either
[00:43]<txnjzd>there are frameworks that do rather asp.nety things in php
[00:43]<vyzusdjvnev>i used to like php but i never got as far as i did with asp.net
[00:44]<fnzjy>bleh php is nothing but hacked pieces where someone tried to glue them together
[00:44]<vyzusdjvnev>php fw are terrible imho
[00:44]<vyzusdjvnev>like pear. its too damn annoying and confusing
[00:44]<txnjzd>slight overgeneralisation there perhaps :-)
[00:45]<fnzjy>slight over protectiveness there
[00:45]<txnjzd>I agree php isn't that perfect, but I think it's often overcriticised, criticising php seems to be 'hip'
[00:45]<txnjzd>(the same goes for VB)
[00:45]<fnzjy>lol
[00:46]<fnzjy>you could say the same for linux and windows
[00:46]<fnzjy>and i'll still never switch from windows
[00:46]<vyzusdjvnev>sorry :(
[00:46]<vyzusdjvnev>leroi ill never switch anymore but ill use it on the side
[00:46]<fnzjy>use what linux?
[00:47]<fnzjy>i'll never use linux
[00:47]<vyzusdjvnev>yeah ill use it on the side for certain things when i see fit
[00:47]<vyzusdjvnev>leroi are you going to make cross-platform apps?
[00:47]<txnjzd>I'm a full time linux user
[00:47]<txnjzd>though I use windows at work because of vs.net
[00:47]<fnzjy>VirusDotNET: no i will not
[00:47]<txnjzd>(with cygwin installed)
[00:48]<vyzusdjvnev>leroi whats ur opinion on the mono thingy?
[00:48]<fnzjy>don't care for it
[00:48]<fnzjy>i'd rather stick where the real thing is at
[00:48]<fnzjy>which is MS'
[00:48]<vyzusdjvnev>hehe yeah
[00:49]<vyzusdjvnev>i don' like emutations however you spell that word
[00:49]<txnjzd>imitations or emulations?
[00:49]<vyzusdjvnev>the first word
[00:49]<fnzjy>or permutations

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