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[02:06]<edjg>...that's brilliant
[02:06]<zgzzcygnv>the first (and only) time i've been to a lazer tag place, they had the music on so loud that you couldnt even concentrate on anything
[02:07]<edjg>haha
[02:07]<kjr>you're lucky I'm in a good mood, or I'd throw a truly ill written book at you - like the Davinci Code
[02:07]<kjr>*cough* plagarism
[02:09]<zgzzcygnv>is there any advantage to marking a class as sealed?
[02:11]<zj2-wzc>AnarkiNet: not that I know of.
[02:13]<kjr>you can't inherit from it
[02:13]<kjr>and yes, that's sometimes an advantage heh
[02:13]<zgzzcygnv>http://www.csharphelp.com/archives/archive158.html
[02:14]<zgzzcygnv>it says, "The sealed modifier is primarily used to prevent unintended derivation, but it also enables certain run-time optimizations."
[02:14]<kjr>I wouldn't necessarily count on those, or expect them to be that great
[02:14]<gdrn_frmdq>kog hi
[02:14]<zgzzcygnv>well for some stuff theres no way i could imagine it needing to be inherited
[02:14]<zgzzcygnv>so i guess i'll mark it as sealed
[02:15]<kjr>so, stuff like utility classes never need inheritence
[02:15]<zgzzcygnv>plus this is a closed-source library i'm working on right now
[02:15]<zgzzcygnv>yeah
[02:15]<kjr>I'm generally lazy, and I generally just don't markt hem sealed
[02:15]<kjr>because I figure if someone's dumb enough to do it, that's their problem
[02:15]<kjr>although, if I were writing a framework that such things mattered in
[02:17]<zgzzcygnv>hmm
[02:17]<zgzzcygnv>on a similar note, do static classes have any performance benefits/optimizations?
[02:17]<zgzzcygnv>eg. public static class MyClass { }
[02:17]<zgzzcygnv>can only contain static members
[02:22]<rrpygay>Java r0ckz!
[02:22]<rrpygay>xD
[02:26]<zj2-wzc>AnarkiNet: way back in the day I vaguely remember someone talking about in certain cercumstances you could do away with the vtable, thats a possible optimization when sealed, but I wouldn't count on it
[02:28]<gdrn_frmdq>learn cousine
[02:28]<gdrn_frmdq>lean cousine
[02:30]<rrpygay>=|
[02:31]<gdrn_frmdq>lean cousine
[02:31]<awjzdd>nice_lady2: wtf are you talking about?
[02:31]<gdrn_frmdq>:)
[02:31]<gdrn_frmdq>just wanted some attention
[02:35]<zj2-wzc>wow.
[02:37]<kjr>Rafinci: thanks captain random
[02:38]<kjr>of the starship randomia
[02:52]<rrpygay>alguien sabe de un canal de C# en español
[02:54]<awjzdd>noope, dont' think there is a C# channel
[02:54]<awjzdd>for spanish
[02:54]<awjzdd>if you don't mind english replies, i can help you
[02:54]<awjzdd>but i can't fucking speak spanish, only read it
[02:54]<awjzdd>i have a hard time putting sentences together
[02:55]<awjzdd>cause imma retard
[02:59]<rrpygay>alguien sabe de un canal de C# en español
[03:00]<myryvrfljjl>Rafinci: not sure
[03:01]<myryvrfljjl>Rafinci: maybe efnet? undernet?
[03:01]<myryvrfljjl>maybe start one?
[03:01]<myryvrfljjl>##csharp-es
[03:02]<zgzzcygnv>er
[03:02]<zgzzcygnv>use .
[03:02]<zgzzcygnv>##csharp.es
[03:03]<rrpygay>grax :D
[03:03]<myryvrfljjl>by the way Rafinci
[03:03]<myryvrfljjl>we hate foreigners
[03:04]<zgzzcygnv>yes
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>all foreigners
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>adn immigrants
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>regardless of how many generation
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>we hate everyone really
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>equally
[03:04]<zgzzcygnv>"i tell you, the last time i was that close to a japanese machine, it was shooting at me!"
[03:04]<zgzzcygnv>btw
[03:04]<zgzzcygnv>System.IO.MemoryStream is AWESOME
[03:04]<myryvrfljjl>no it sucks
[03:05]<myryvrfljjl>i point XML Writer at it, and it wrote crap headers when I wrote using UTF8 encoding
[03:05]<myryvrfljjl>but that might be encoding's fault...
[03:05]<myryvrfljjl>try it, XML Writer, UTF8 encoding, watch and cry
[03:06]<myryvrfljjl>to string the memory stream, look at the header and footer
[03:06]<myryvrfljjl>i mean beginning bytes and ending bytes
[03:06]<myryvrfljjl>it's really weird, i don't get it
[03:08]<zgzzcygnv>hmm
[03:08]<zgzzcygnv>maybe its not writing the UTF-8 BOM?
[03:09]<rrpygay>no hay nadie en #csharp.es
[03:10]<myryvrfljjl>Rafinci: just ask
[03:10]<myryvrfljjl>in spanish
[03:11]<rrpygay>en VWD como utilizo el DataRowView :S, no me sale, solo en C# desktop
[03:13]<awjzdd>VWD?
[03:13]<rrpygay>Visual Web Developer
[03:13]<awjzdd>ahh
[03:13]<rrpygay>con C#
[03:14]<awjzdd>No utilizo VWD :(
[03:15]<rrpygay>gracias, alguien que me ayude ! ?
[03:19]<rrpygay>alguien sabe de un canal de programacion en español
[03:22]<rrpygay>alguien que utilice el Visual Web Developer (VWD) ?
[03:26]<lucn>I know there is a class Path for path utilities but is there a Path wrapper?
[03:26]<vj2nxe>Rafinci:no hablan espanol aqui :<
[03:31]<kjr>AnarkiNet: time for OSCon over at the convention center heh
[03:36]<myryvrfljjl>Kog do you have a solution for the "animals who are unfortunate because they don't speak english" probleM?
[03:37]<myryvrfljjl>:) j/k
[03:40]<zgzzcygnv>OSCON is in portland?
[03:40]<dy>yes
[03:54]<myryvrfljjl>at OSCON this year RMS is going to apologize to all the capitalist pigs die! die! die! he offended
[03:55]<dy>heh
[03:57]<rxrcr>hippies apologizing to capitalists? Nonsense!
[04:24]<22vnax>I have a System.Xml.XmlNodeReader and I'm walking through the xml....how do I get the current xml tag?
[04:38]<rxrcr>bbtech, I've never used XmlReader or XmlNodeReader, but being Forward-Only readers, I'm sure they have a set of properties to access the current node
[04:39]<22vnax>yeah, I sure can't find it though

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