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[19:31]<gjrvcxnne>m0`: my RenderControl uses both OpenGL and Direct3D.... it's pretty cool... i'll post the source sometime next week
[19:47]<d0`>GoatCheez: aH
[19:47]<d0`>thats pretty nice :)
[19:47]<d0`>brb restarting, my sidewinder joystik not recognized
[19:48]<rrd2uppnv>how do u have dbnull = null... so i dont have to do a check on each field whether or not its dbnull before i convert it
[19:49]<rrd2uppnv>i guess i would still have to check because convert will throw an error if its passed a null huh
[20:22]<rxrcr>Kog, heh thats funny. I take it you didn't attend his talk on profiling php?
[20:43]<dzrrjgd>Any ideas/improvments/comments -> http://pastebin.ca/104131
[20:51]<mygy`>Is it possible to use the cool features lige
[20:51]<mygy`>like CreateUserWizard etc. without using ms sql?
[20:54]<jjnfyvj>Hi people
[21:01]<jjnfyvj>I need help here, buy seems that everyone is AFK
[21:18]<22vnax_>Anyone know a way to dumb five rows out of every table in a mssql database?
[21:22]<rsdj>Gah, I'm going crazy
[21:23]<rsdj>Is there no real way of fireing an event when a sockets is closed from the remote end while using async sockets?
[21:23]<lxzjsvd>nope
[21:25]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>C# isnt C.NET its fairly different than C
[21:25]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>I thought .NET is a framework not a language by itself
[21:25]<rsdj>Who are you talking to?
[21:26]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>the channel
[21:26]<zgzzcygnv>C# is a language
[21:26]<zgzzcygnv>.NET is an implementation of the Common Language Runtime
[21:27]<zgzzcygnv>just as Mono is
[21:27]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>isnt it C with a framework?
[21:27]<zgzzcygnv>no
[21:27]<zgzzcygnv>not at all
[21:27]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>ok
[21:27]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>what about ASP.NET ? is it ASP with the .NET framework?
[21:28]<vxznrm_>it's just a web interface based on the .net framework and its languages
[21:28]<rrd2uppnv>how do u have dbnull = null... so i dont have to do a check on each field whether or not its dbnull before i convert it
[21:28]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>the .net framework is a bunch of libraries
[21:28]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>how can you make whole languages upon it?
[21:28]<zgzzcygnv>no
[21:28]<zgzzcygnv>its not
[21:29]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>what is it then?
[21:29]<zgzzcygnv>the .NET Class Library is the bunch of libraries
[21:29]<afd>hi all!
[21:29]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>what is the .NET framework then?
[21:29]<zgzzcygnv>the .NET Framework is the VM
[21:29]<afd>:)
[21:29]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>hmm
[21:29]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>why is it called framework then?
[21:29]<afd>AnarkiNet: it's not VM
[21:30]<afd>AnarkiNet: the runtime is ;)
[21:30]<afd>framework is the class library
[21:30]<lxzjsvd>AqD, what is aqdweb
[21:30]<zgzzcygnv>whatever
[21:30]<zgzzcygnv>[aG]Sociopath go fucking google it
[21:30]<afd>phrosty: see http://aqdweb.sourceforge.net/HomePage :)
[21:30]<zgzzcygnv>this is the C# language channel, not the explain-the-concept-of-.NET-to-people page
[21:30]<zgzzcygnv>channel*
[21:30]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : then my question stands... answer me?
[21:30]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AnarkiNet : ignored
[21:30]<rxrcr>the ".NET Framework" is the all encompassing package, including a runtime, compilation system, and library
[21:30]<afd>lol
[21:31]<afd>chaka: the term framework itself mean some kind of library
[21:31]<lxzjsvd>AqD: is there a way to create the tables from .net
[21:31]<afd>phrosty: what tables?
[21:31]<rxrcr>AqD, yes it does, microsoft's marketing misused the term :p
[21:31]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>ok cool
[21:31]<lxzjsvd>it doesn't use a backend sql database?
[21:32]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>thanks everyone but AnarkiNet who did nothing but getting mad
[21:32]<afd>phrosty: it does
[21:32]<rxrcr>AqD, when you go and download the ".NET framework", you get all those things I just mentioned
[21:32]<afd>phrosty: nhibernate does the inner work - it generate schemas automatically
[21:32]<lxzjsvd>[aG]Sociopath: waste our time and we get mad, what did you expect
[21:32]<afd>phrosty: for various DBs, like sql server or mysql
[21:32]<lxzjsvd>cool
[21:32]<afd>phrosty: basically you write your code once and it run for every supported DB
[21:32]<afd>phrosty: BUT that's NOT what my framework does :D
[21:33]<lxzjsvd>mmk
[21:33]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>phrosty : you're wasting time more than I do mate
[21:33]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>phrosty : ignored
[21:33]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>phrosty : go and be AnarkiNet's bitch and leave us be
[21:33]<afd>phrosty: i just have to introduce it, because my framework is needed you want to write OO designed web app with asp.net
[21:33]<rxrcr>[aG]Sociopath, ask as many questions as you like. But just know that the act of annoucing who you've ignored doesn't make you friends here
[21:33]<zgzzcygnv>also a clantag doesnt help
[21:34]<afd>phrosty: it works with dataset too but it would need more code and miss the point
[21:34]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>[aG] is not a clan
[21:34]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>it means am gay
[21:34]<lxzjsvd>AqD: i'll stick with rails, sounds interesting though if i ever take another asp.net job
[21:34]<afd>phrosty: part 3 is what it does
[21:34]<afd>phrosty: rails is not good :)
[21:34]<afd>phrosty: well not for real OO
[21:34]<lxzjsvd>"rails is not good" is part 3?
[21:34]<lxzjsvd>lol
[21:34]<afd>phrosty: no
[21:35]<afd>phrosty: rails' db mapping is quick but not real OO style
[21:35]<lxzjsvd>just messin with you, having a heat stroke over here
[21:35]<afd>:)
[21:35]<afd>phrosty: you used castle's activerecord?
[21:36]<rrd2uppnv>how does aqdweb handle foreign/primary key ? as child/parent objects ?
[21:36]<lxzjsvd>castle's?
[21:36]<afd>jaybuffet: it doesn't do that ;)
[21:36]<afd>jaybuffet: nhibernate handles everything about persistence, aqdweb only extends it and do mainly about the UI
[21:36]<slrgscr>I have an XML with tags like <First><Item1><Name>Item1's name</Name></Item1><Item2><Name>Item2's name</Name></Item2></First>. How can I read the name of each item?

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