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[22:08]<awjzdd>AqD: what a poor excuse for bad software design.. 'ah we'll just buy two servers'
[22:08]<gjrvcxnne>how do i force my application to take focus, and to make it always on top... (always on top is probably a property of the main form, if it is, just don't say anything)
[22:08]<afd>jwormy: i mean cluters
[22:08]<afd>jwormy: there are differences
[22:09]<awjzdd>AqD: i think you want to design software poorly and spend money on hardware to be lazy.
[22:09]<afd>jwormy: some slowness are constant but some doubles when you get more data or visits
[22:09]<awjzdd>SpikeLite AqD--
[22:09]<afd>jwormy: no but performance isn't the most important issue
[22:09]<awjzdd>AqD: i think every point i've brought up you don't think matter
[22:09]<afd>jwormy: :D
[22:10]<awjzdd>AqD: you dont' think performance matters, you don't think design matters, you don't think reusability matters, you don't think maintaining code matters...
[22:10]<gjrvcxnne>Sociopath: whats up?'
[22:10]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : tell GoatCheez he's ignored
[22:10]<awjzdd>AqD: you sound like a VB6 programmer, honestly
[22:10]<afd>jwormy: it's less important than scalability
[22:10]<gjrvcxnne>wtf
[22:10]<gjrvcxnne>someone wanna fill me in?
[22:10]<afd>jwormy: as i said, 2x or 4x raw performance doesn't matter
[22:10]<awjzdd>AqD: thats ludacris
[22:11]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD ?
[22:11]<awjzdd>AqD: people like you are the reason for DailyWTF
[22:11]<afd>jwormy: you could code your web page in assembly :D
[22:11]<afd>jwormy: then it will be 10x faster than jsp or php or whatever :)
[22:11]<gjrvcxnne>i have to kinda agree with AqD to some degree... if performance was such an issue, then php and asp wouldn't exist
[22:11]<afd>jwormy: or you can serve just plain html
[22:11]<afd>jwormy: hardware doesn't always help
[22:12]<awjzdd>GoatCheez: scalability and performance go hand in hand
[22:12]<afd>jwormy: that's why you need scalability :)
[22:12]<afd>jwormy: not always
[22:12]<zgzzcygnv>yes really
[22:12]<gjrvcxnne>ehhhh
[22:12]<zgzzcygnv>theyre directly related
[22:12]<awjzdd>AqD: oh gosh, thats your response to EVERYTHING
[22:12]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>what's scalability?
[22:12]<awjzdd>AqD: not always..
[22:12]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: i think it means, for example, if you have 2 servers, you can get 2x performance
[22:12]<zgzzcygnv>if your application performs extremely efficiently, it can naturally scale to a much higher number of <whatever it does>
[22:13]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: most apps dont design this way
[22:13]<awjzdd>AnarkiNet: thank you for not being an idiot.
[22:13]<gjrvcxnne>scalability is how well the application scales to a larger user base
[22:13]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : why not?
[22:13]<gjrvcxnne>like, how well it handles 10000 users as opposed to 100
[22:13]<afd>so they screw up under some degree of load no matter how many servers you have
[22:13]<slrgscr>What function should I use to properly exit my console application?
[22:13]<zgzzcygnv>but if you design your app intelligently, that "some degree" becomes more than you'd ever experience
[22:14]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: for example the dev may use static fields and locking to store frequently-access info
[22:14]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: they're not obvious until you get the problem
[22:14]<gjrvcxnne>that won't scale well
[22:14]<afd>most inexperienced devs can't understand that, this is how it will screw up
[22:14]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>is that the reason mysql is used as a server and not as a library?
[22:15]<gjrvcxnne>Sociopath: what the hell are you talking about
[22:15]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: library isn't about server :)
[22:15]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>GoatCheez : ignored
[22:15]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : I know libraries arent
[22:15]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: library is what dumb users call it :)
[22:15]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : but you're ought to use a library if your application is built for one user right?
[22:15]<gjrvcxnne>so, lemme get this straight, sociopath is ignoring me?
[22:15]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: a library may spawn its thread and act like server too
[22:15]<gjrvcxnne>for.... what reason?
[22:15]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: oh you mean access?
[22:15]<gjrvcxnne>and i should care because....?
[22:15]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>GoatCheez : for being an ass
[22:15]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>AqD : in a sense
[22:16]<gjrvcxnne>Sociopath: how
[22:16]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>[22:05:07] <GoatCheez> y0 f000000000000000000000ls!
[22:16]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: I think it's because access doesn't handle multiple request itself
[22:16]<gjrvcxnne>that's how i greet all my firends
[22:16]<gjrvcxnne>i use f00l as an endearing term
[22:16]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: instead each client use file locking for coordinating
[22:16]<gjrvcxnne>get ur head outta ur ass, and then ignore me for saying that f00l;
[22:16]<afd>i dunno about its internals though
[22:17]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>ok
[22:17]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: this way it can't work well when the users go up to some numbers, even if it's 10x faster than mysql when there is one user
[22:17]<afd>[aG]Sociopath: inter-process locking is slow, probably due to the context switch
[22:17]<afd>1/100 period i mean
[22:19]<afd>AnarkiNet: the above example prove you wrong ;)
[22:19]<afd>later, time to watch babylon 5
[22:20]<rxrcr>oh man.. haven't thought about b5 in a looong time
[22:21]<gjrvcxnne>i heard its coming back
[22:21]<rxrcr>what like rebroadcasting the 5 seasons?
[22:21]<gjrvcxnne>new season is what i heard
[22:21]<gjrvcxnne>on sci-fi
[22:22]<rxrcr>hrm.. JMS doing it?
[22:23]<frsvfd>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.windows.forms.form.closed.aspx <-- this doesn't show me how to make private void Form1_Closed(object sender, System.EventArgs e) actually execute when the form closes
[22:23]<frsvfd>that's what i found on google
[22:23]<frsvfd>all i'm looking to do is reactive the parent form
[22:23]<y-gz>myForm.Closed += new EventHandler (Form1_Closed);
[22:24]<y-gz>read on delegates, events
[22:24]<y-gz>and btw VS should do it for you
[22:24]<frsvfd>thanks i-
[22:24]<frsvfd>where should i place that code?
[22:24]<frsvfd>in the constructor?
[22:24]<frsvfd>form constructor...
[22:25]<sxncrsv>quick question: double d = 1.00d; what should i do to print 1.00 to the page? d.toString("D"); ?
[22:25]<rxrcr>on the constructor should work fine
[22:25]<zgzzcygnv>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/5223624.stm
[22:25]<afd>Fastly: usually in OnInit i guess
[22:25]<afd>so it may be overrided
[22:26]<afd>oh why b5 changed the main actor from season 1 to 2???
[22:26]<afd>:-/

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