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[09:11]<zgzzcygnv>kog what are you talking about?
[09:11]<kjr>AnarkiNet: chaka asked me a question a few hours ago
[09:12]<zgzzcygnv>about?
[09:12]<kjr>AnarkiNet: what Rasmus was right about
[09:12]<zgzzcygnv>what the hell is the whole topic?
[09:12]<zgzzcygnv>lol
[09:13]<kjr>AnarkiNet: I got in an argument with Rasmus Lerdorf... the guy who wrote PHP
[09:13]<zgzzcygnv>oh
[09:13]<zgzzcygnv>lol
[09:13]<kjr>and he won
[09:13]<kjr>and it also proves that I have some sketchy ass memory
[09:13]<agvygaw0w>how do I cause a tooltip to show. right now, it only shows when the user hovers over the control
[09:13]<kjr>which makes me wonder what the hell I DID use if not MySQL
[09:14]<zgzzcygnv>LOL this is some funny shit, read the last comment: http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/398725/6731845/
[09:14]<kjr>30 more points and I can get a code signing cert
[09:14]<zgzzcygnv>"i really want to play this game but i have no idea how to make it work...like extracting the 7z thingy...i dont even know what that is...so if someone could PLEASE HELP ME, i would be very appreciative"
[09:15]<`d0>:o
[09:15]<zgzzcygnv>this is a comment on a torrent of a game that involves lots of rather difficult brain puzzles
[09:15]<agvygaw0w>is the ca cert root added by default to firefox and ie?
[09:15]<kjr>AnarkiNet: it's an edutainment game... if he was intelligent, he wouldn't need the game
[09:15]<zgzzcygnv>by hard i mean, HARD
[09:15]<`d0>hehe Kog
[09:15]<kjr>kevincw01: no, the root isn't default
[09:15]<zgzzcygnv>lol
[09:15]<kjr>kevincw01: that's only really a problem for IE7 people
[09:15]<agvygaw0w>not default, but is it in the root keystore for ff and ie?
[09:15]<`d0>if he is intelligent he woulda owned that game and show off infront of his friends
[09:16]<zgzzcygnv>chances are he won't eve be able to complete any of them if he can't even figure out my *extremly easy* install instructions
[09:16]<kjr>kevincw01: as I said, it's not distributed in the default set
[09:16]<kjr>kevincw01: and it's not in the MS pack you get from windows update
[09:16]<agvygaw0w>oh, well then what good is it?
[09:16]<kjr>uh, because I trust CACert a shit ton more than Versign
[09:16]<agvygaw0w>if you have to get your user to install the ca cert root ca which is a hell of a lot harder than clicking "accept this ca which you dont trust yet"
[09:16]<zgzzcygnv>erm
[09:16]<kjr>in order to get a code signing cert I have to meet 3 people who assure I am who say I am
[09:16]<zgzzcygnv>is that a metric shit ton?
[09:17]<zgzzcygnv>or an imperial shit ton?
[09:17]<agvygaw0w>i nko
[09:17]<agvygaw0w>know*
[09:17]<kjr>in order to fill out a CSR sign I need to meet 2 people - like I did today
[09:17]<`d0>whats R in CSR?
[09:17]<agvygaw0w>ok well, congratz...
[09:17]<kjr>kevincw01: anyone who cares already has them as an accepted CA
[09:17]<kjr>`m0: request
[09:18]<`d0>what is CS in CSR?
[09:18]<agvygaw0w>not typical users which is my case, i care
[09:18]<`d0>lol
[09:18]<`d0>sorry
[09:18]<`d0>:(
[09:18]<agvygaw0w>i understand your point so ill drop it
[09:18]<kjr>kevincw01: then start a petition to get MS to add them, and a default subscription to the CRL
[09:18]<`d0>Does Microsoft really look at petitions?
[09:18]<agvygaw0w>i dont care enough
[09:19]<agvygaw0w>ill just pay one of the root cas that are in the default list
[09:19]<kjr>kevincw01: it may be the case that CACert is a trusted CA now... but I don't remember it being a default trusted one
[09:19]<agvygaw0w>k
[09:19]<kjr>it would be nice if they were
[09:19]<kjr>because Verisign is fucking evil
[09:19]<agvygaw0w>yes indeed
[09:19]<kjr>and Thawte is just incompetent
[09:19]<agvygaw0w>agreed
[09:19]<agvygaw0w>eh
[09:19]<kjr>it took them 2 months to sign our request at work
[09:19]<kjr>after we got a legal D/B/A
[09:19]<`d0>Kog do you have a laptop?
[09:20]<agvygaw0w>fuck! i just want to pop up a damn tool tip when the form shows....argh
[09:20]<kjr>we faxed them the business license, and they didn't believe us
[09:20]<kjr>`m0: yes
[09:20]<`d0>Kog: did you install Linux ?
[09:20]<kjr>kevincw01: I could tell you in Java ;)
[09:20]<`d0>Kog: Which distribution ?
[09:20]<kjr>`m0: no, linux doesn't like that laptop... neither does unix
[09:20]<agvygaw0w>i could gtell myself
[09:20]<`d0>hmm
[09:20]<kjr>kevincw01: if you're using one of the IDEs, I'm sure the form designer has something
[09:20]<`d0>I want to install a linux distribution on my laptop
[09:20]<kjr>kevincw01: what are you projecting the tooltip on?
[09:20]<`d0>Kog: Gentoo hates my lapto
[09:20]<agvygaw0w>kog:nope.
[09:20]<kjr>`m0: no, you just can't figure it out
[09:21]<kjr>kevincw01: what are you projecting it on... the panel?
[09:21]<agvygaw0w>now im gonna have to screenshot the tooltip and show it as an image
[09:21]<`d0>Kog: True
[09:21]<agvygaw0w>it fires off of a button right now
[09:21]<kjr>`m0: which is sad, because a stage 3 is trivial compared to how it used to be ;)
[09:21]<`d0>Kog: my only problems were widescreen display
[09:21]<kjr>yes, but SOMETHING must be projecting the tooltip
[09:21]<fzzznz>socket.BeginDisconnect(false, new AsyncCallbak(DisconnectCallback), socket); why can this be throwing "An invalid argument was supplied"? I dont see invalid argument
[09:21]<kjr>is it the container itself?
[09:21]<kjr>or is it the button?
[09:22]<`d0>Kog: I even got a #gentoo @ to help me,
[09:22]<kjr>what do you want to project the tip
[09:22]<`d0>heh
[09:22]<agvygaw0w>the button
[09:22]<kjr>`m0: which one?
[09:22]<kjr>`m0: I ran into a few today
[09:22]<`d0>I forgot its been 1 year :)
[09:22]<kjr>kevincw01: onClick? or just on mouse over?
[09:22]<`d0>hehe
[09:22]<agvygaw0w>mouse over

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