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[03:45]<edjg>I'm from out of state :P
[03:45]<kjr>oh, ok
[03:45]<kjr>Emon: my impression of NY is that there's 2 pieces: NYC and the rest of it
[03:46]<edjg>yeah :/
[03:46]<edjg>rochester is pretty boring
[03:46]<kjr>White Plains is obviously part of the latter
[03:47]<kjr>I took comp sci from freshman year to senior
[03:47]<kjr>with some social theory classes, calc and a couple other things
[03:47]<edjg>where did you go?
[03:47]<kjr>but we did the ... hm, what's it called... Integrated? class method
[03:47]<kjr>The Evergreen State College
[03:47]<edjg>ah
[03:47]<edjg>what state?
[03:47]<kjr>the greatest liberal arts comp sci education no one ever heard of
[03:47]<edjg>hehe
[03:47]<kjr>Emon: why, the Evergreen state of course
[03:48]<kjr>I'll give you a hint, it's a state north of the Golden state
[03:48]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>am I the only one who is willing to vote for Al Gore?
[03:48]<kjr>two, inclusive
[03:48]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: you live in the wrong country
[03:48]<edjg>their website is slightly messed in IE
[03:48]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>I have american citizenship
[03:48]<edjg>I mean
[03:48]<edjg>in firefox
[03:48]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: then how are you getting drafted...
[03:48]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>I was born in new-england, mexico
[03:49]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>its possible to have 2 citizenships
[03:49]<kjr>ok, you're back to not making sense
[03:49]<edjg>hehe
[03:49]<kjr>Emon: wouldn't surprise me
[03:49]<kjr>Emon: it's a public college
[03:49]<kjr>oh shit, that's my calc teacher on the left
[03:49]<kjr>and Andrew on the right
[03:49]<edjg>hah
[03:49]<kjr>man, I still owe Mario a case of beer
[03:50]<kjr>bleh, only job opening is an ITSS2
[04:03]<vyzusdjvnev>does anyone know how to where if a user selects one option from a drop down list it changes another drop list list values?
[04:04]<awjzdd>i've seen that ;)
[04:04]<awjzdd>you wanna do it in asp.net?
[04:04]<vyzusdjvnev>yup
[04:04]<awjzdd>hmm i can do it with monorail and prototype
[04:05]<awjzdd>and i guess i could manage it in classical asp.net if i sat down
[04:05]<awjzdd>but classical asp.net makes baby jesus cry, and i don't wanna upset jesus
[04:05]<vyzusdjvnev>i want to do it with countries like if the user selects us it shows the states if it selects canada it shows the canadian states
[04:05]<vyzusdjvnev>know how i can search google for that?
[04:05]<vyzusdjvnev>cause all i found was to populate it with sql
[04:10]<vyzusdjvnev>:'(
[04:23]<awjzdd>anyone know of a website that willl handle your CI for you?
[04:23]<awjzdd>like cvsdude.org does for cvs?
[04:25]<vynvyv>if my project depends on a dll, where should i put that dll?
[04:26]<vynvyv>do i put it somewhere in that project's folder?
[04:29]<vyzusdjvnev>jwormy, i think im going to try it with Atlas :)
[04:30]<rxrcr>VirusDotNET, I've seen someone do it with asp.net 1.1 and some handmade "ajax" js. Never got a chance to look at the source to see what he did tho.
[04:58]<pjnyz>Hi, guys. I concluded that I could really use a nice map function in C#. I get the sense it'll be part of C# 3.0, but for the time being, this link will have to do: http://pluralsight.com/blogs/dbox/archive/2005/04/23/7685.aspx However, it looks to me like the map function can be written more concisely as public static IEnumerable Map(Delegate proc, params IEnumerable[] lists) { foreach (array args[] in lists) { yield return Apply(proc, args); } } ? I'm
[04:58]<pjnyz>at home, where I don't have VS/C#/Mono, but it really looks like it simplifies to that... Is that wrong? If so, why doesn't it?
[05:09]<slzygc_>what varient of md5 is the one in System.Cryptography?
[05:09]<slzygc_>sorry.. System.Security.Cryptography
[05:10]<rxrcr>Poeir, answering your question would involve a non-trivial amount of time testing your proposed changes. At first glance nothing seems wrong with them.
[05:10]<pjnyz>chaka: Well, I'll test them next time I'm at a C# compiler. It really looks like it can be simplified to that point, but it seems remarkable that someone would have written that much code if it wasn't necessary.
[05:13]<pjnyz>Maybe it should be "object[] args" instead of "array args[]"... Damn, I should go get Mono.
[05:14]<slzygc_>does .net have any methods for CRAM-MD5?
[05:35]<[ew0z]>i've got a question. What exactly is c# other than a programming language ?
[05:38]<lnvnzxu>who told you it was something else? =)
[05:39]<[ew0z]>I was just wondering how it differs from c or c++
[05:39]<lnvnzxu>it's a programming language that is usually compiled to Common IL to target a Common Language Runtime, rather than native code
[05:40]<lnvnzxu>the language syntax is similar to Java in many respects
[05:40]<awjzdd>very similar to java
[05:40]<[ew0z]>Do you program in it basically the same as c, or does it seem to be easier ?
[05:40]<awjzdd>i just wish it had the same exception handling as java
[05:40]<awjzdd>easier than C
[05:40]<awjzdd>and umm.. pretty much not related.
[05:40]<awjzdd>its much safer to compare it to C#
[05:40]<lnvnzxu>[Ex0r]: depends on what you're making i would suppose
[05:41]<awjzdd>i mena
[05:41]<awjzdd>compare it to java
[05:41]<saxgnymnz>i think easier than java too
[05:42]<[ew0z]>I'm going to see if I can find a book or website online for learning to program in it
[05:43]<pjnyz>[Ex0r]: Nice managed code, it's got that over C++. And it doesn't have a ton of semantic overhead like Java. Personally, I'm a fan of 2.0 for its allowance of functional styles of programming. Apparently 3.0 will have even more, and of course F# is straight-up functional.
[05:44]<pjnyz>jwormy: Personally, so far, though it hasn't been very long, I've really preferred C#'s handling of exceptions over Java's. Because you can just "throw new ArgumentNullException();" or whatever.
[05:45]<awjzdd>Poeir: you can throw exceptions in java also?
[05:45]<awjzdd>Poeir: i hate that they can go unchecked
[05:45]<pjnyz>jwormy: Yeah, but it's my understanding that you have to declare them first. Perhaps I'm mistaken, I haven't looked too much into Java because I never liked it.
[05:45]<awjzdd>Poeir: i dunno maybe i just dislike msdn but eh i hate that its hard (to me) to find out what exceptions are thrown at times also
[05:45]<pjnyz>I like Scheme, Ruby, Python, C#, C for some things, those are probably my top 5.
[05:46]<pjnyz>jwormy: Yeah, that's one thing Java has over it, because it has "throws NullArgumentException" or whatever it is.
[05:46]<pjnyz>You'd think that would be autogenerated documentation. Just go through the function and see what it can throw.
[05:46]<pjnyz>It's just a matter of walking the tree, which the View Callers thing in VS already does.
[05:47]<awjzdd>Poeir: i don't like it :)
[05:47]<pjnyz>jwormy: Which thing? I said a bunch of things that you might not like there.
[05:47]<awjzdd>the exceptions deal
[05:47]<pjnyz>jwormy: Java's or C#'s?
[05:47]<awjzdd>C#
[05:48]<pjnyz>Well, so far I haven't dealt with catching them. I really should. But it was only a couple weeks ago I started to get going in C# at all. So naturally the second thing I do is try to figure out how to drag map and apply into it.
[05:49]<pjnyz>What I really want to do is write a map function that parallelizes everything, so that I can just go map(function, args) and it automatically runs on multiple cores.
[05:52]<pjnyz>I'm half-tempted to try to make a Lisp interpreter in C# that I can just call inside my code.
[05:53]<cfudsd>#powershell
[05:53]<cfudsd>sorry stupid cellphone irc client
[05:54]<pjnyz>klumsy: Cool, cellphone IRC.
[05:54]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>cellphone IRC?
[05:54]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>there's no such thing

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