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[03:37]<edjg>haha
[03:37]<kjr>I've written in C
[03:37]<edjg>ah
[03:37]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>Kog : was my last statement correct?
[03:37]<kjr>student? nope, I've got this lovely degree
[03:37]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: no, it's n ot the same data
[03:37]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: the constraints on representation are different
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>mhm, the value isnt changed
[03:38]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: oh sure it is
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>no it isnt
[03:38]<kjr>the actual binary isn't
[03:38]<kjr>but we're not talking about machine level abstraction
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>FFFF is FFFF in both a signed and unsigned integer
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>sure we do
[03:38]<kjr>no
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>yes
[03:38]<kjr>because the point is at the higher levels of abstraction
[03:38]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>nop
[03:38]<kjr>that's why we're not writing in ASM
[03:38]<kjr>because we like abstraction
[03:39]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>you might like it
[03:39]<kjr>you don't like abstraction?
[03:39]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>no
[03:39]<edjg>heh
[03:39]<kjr>then are you ever in t he wrong place
[03:39]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>C SHARP isnt about abstraction
[03:39]<kjr>uh
[03:39]<edjg>...
[03:39]<edjg>um
[03:39]<edjg>um
[03:39]<edjg>um
[03:39]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>its a good langauge and a better wife
[03:39]<kjr>I guess he really DOESN'T have time to learn ;)
[03:39]<edjg>kog, you answer this
[03:39]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: C# is my wife?
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>its my wife
[03:40]<kjr>wow, you must have fucked up children
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>no we dont...
[03:40]<kjr>[aG]Sociopath: are they signed? or unsigned?
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>we have bastard kids
[03:40]<edjg>heh
[03:40]<kjr>you aren't married?
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>we werent
[03:40]<rxrcr>does C# ever get pyst when you use Java?
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>when they were born
[03:40]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>we got married because of them
[03:40]<kjr>chaka: haha, cheater.
[03:40]<edjg>maybe
[03:41]<edjg>C# is the bastard child of C++ and Java, so it might not holde either of them in very high regards
[03:41]<kjr>Emon: I asked you that question because it seemed from your text that you were saying that only an unsigned char was 8bits
[03:41]<kjr>Emon: which made me curious, because the size of both should be the same
[03:41]<edjg>ah, no, I didn't mean that
[03:41]<edjg>yeah
[03:41]<kjr>that's the point of the sign
[03:41]<edjg>right
[03:41]<kjr>also the reason why your range of values is halved
[03:41]<vyzusdjvnev>can I install SQL Server 2005 ontop of Express?
[03:41]<edjg>right
[03:41]<kjr>although, only in the positive
[03:42]<[rg]sjryjlrvx>VirusDotNET : no
[03:42]<kjr>Emon: another side effect is that 0 is a positive number
[03:42]<kjr>Emon: which I guess is mathematically false - although, 0 is indeed an even number
[03:42]<edjg>yes kog, I am also a computer scientist*
[03:42]<edjg>*student
[03:42]<kjr>I'm not a student
[03:42]<edjg>I know
[03:42]<edjg>I'm saying I am
[03:42]<kjr>year?
[03:42]<edjg>3
[03:42]<edjg>well
[03:43]<edjg>more like 2
[03:43]<kjr>yay for discrete math
[03:43]<edjg>since I suck at life
[03:43]<kjr>so your'e taking intro level CS stuff now huh
[03:43]<edjg>no
[03:43]<edjg>I did that my first year...
[03:43]<kjr>really? you get to count those against GEs?
[03:43]<kjr>we didn't use GEs
[03:43]<edjg>GEs?
[03:43]<kjr>what country do you live in?
[03:43]<edjg>US
[03:43]<kjr>university?
[03:43]<edjg>oh
[03:43]<edjg>gen ed?
[03:44]<kjr>yeah, general education requirement credits
[03:44]<edjg>yeah I just wasn't sure what you meant by GE
[03:44]<kjr>you're supposed to get a certain amount of GEs before being accepted into your faculty
[03:44]<kjr>(or major/college)
[03:44]<edjg>not here
[03:44]<kjr>yeah, I went to a school with no such restrictions
[03:44]<edjg>I'm at RIT...they start you in your program asap
[03:44]<kjr>but it's generally the case in US higher edu
[03:44]<slzygc_>community college
[03:44]<kjr>Emon: huh? what's RIT? Rhode Island Technology?
[03:44]<edjg>I'm probably going to transfer to software engineering though
[03:45]<edjg>Rochester Institute of Technology
[03:45]<kjr>NY?
[03:45]<edjg>yuup
[03:45]<kjr>my dad's from White Plains
[03:45]<edjg>that means nothing to me







