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[10:50]<cjmgrug>Macke: you must have done something :p
[10:51]<mracn>oh, my bad
[10:51]<mracn>yes, it seems that Visual Assist is the culprit
[10:51]<zgzzcygnv>is Macke saying anything worth reading?
[10:51]<zgzzcygnv>meh, whatever
[10:51]<zgzzcygnv>CodeRun, going to build a process hibernater? :)
[10:52]<cjmgrug>AnarkiNet: i found yet one more useful application for it. Like when you're reading ebooks(especially chm format), you cant bookmark or anything.. and so, you either have to remember the page or write/type it somewhere.. this could freeze the ebook, until next time :p
[10:52]<zgzzcygnv>exactly
[10:52]<cjmgrug>no man, i'm not that advanced in c#
[10:52]<zgzzcygnv>it couldn't be done in C#
[10:53]<cjmgrug>i thought we agreed that it could.. using interop and stuff..
[10:53]<zgzzcygnv>i think the consensus was when i brought up the idea that it'd have to be done in C/C++ and implemented as a system driver
[10:53]<cjmgrug>although not purely c#
[10:53]<zgzzcygnv>since it has to have OS-level access to all addressable memory
[10:54]<cjmgrug>whoa , i didnt know that
[10:54]<zgzzcygnv>cause all the memory that is used by the application has to be found and persisted
[10:54]<zgzzcygnv>which may include stuff that is in protected memory segments or whatever
[10:55]<cjmgrug>yea
[10:55]<zgzzcygnv>oh
[10:55]<zgzzcygnv>the other use for this could be an "absolute undo"
[10:56]<zgzzcygnv>eg if the hibernator was designed in such a way that it didn't have to shut the application down when persisting it's memory footprint
[10:56]<zgzzcygnv>you could like, save the state of the application and keep working
[10:56]<cjmgrug>ah..
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>then if like you screwed up or <insert some application-undoable situation here> you could restore the previous state of the application
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>:)
[10:57]<cjmgrug>another 'evil' feature could be to take a snapshot of the application(which is a 30 day fully functional trial) and after 30 days, restore it :p
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>this would be such a rediculously complex project to even attempt to design though
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>yeah
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>well, better than that
[10:57]<zgzzcygnv>take a snapshot, edit the memory, restore it
[10:58]<cjmgrug>cool
[10:58]<zgzzcygnv>apparently there are programs like this, but theyre only one way
[10:58]<zgzzcygnv>and are used frequently by crackers to make things like no-cd cracks for games and stuff
[10:58]<cjmgrug>loaders
[10:59]<zgzzcygnv>no, savers
[10:59]<zgzzcygnv>dumping the memory footprint in order to examine it and make changes (like removing cd-requirements)
[10:59]<cjmgrug>hmm
[10:59]<zgzzcygnv>the people that do that crap though are fucking geniuses, heh
[11:00]<cjmgrug>its not that hard..
[11:00]<xylxjzys>hey
[11:00]<xylxjzys>AnarkiNet I made a google group for the video game stuff
[11:00]<zgzzcygnv>hi Xiphoris
[11:00]<xylxjzys>I'd love to use your networking library
[11:00]<zgzzcygnv>ok :)
[11:00]<xylxjzys>can you bundle it etc?
[11:00]<zgzzcygnv>yeah
[11:01]<zgzzcygnv>i'm like 90% sure it will be shared-source
[11:01]<xylxjzys>http://groups.google.com/group/aelements-l
[11:01]<zgzzcygnv>but the source won't be (legally) re-distributable
[11:01]<cjmgrug>i've 'educated' reverse engineering before.. and you just need to know what you're doing and quite a bit of assembly :p
[11:01]<cjmgrug>+myself*
[11:01]<zgzzcygnv>since i'm going to use this same framework in multiple projects including MUSE which will be commercial
[11:02]<xylxjzys>AnarkiNet, you have time to work on any of the game aspects?:)
[11:02]<xylxjzys>DOTA made real-style :D
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>heh
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>maybe
[11:03]<xylxjzys>i gotta go to sleep
[11:03]<xylxjzys>we can talk later :)
[11:03]<xylxjzys>bbl
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>i need to get my networking framework working though
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>ok
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>i have tomorrow off
[11:03]<zgzzcygnv>so i'll be here all day
[11:04]<zgzzcygnv>btw does anyone know if when reading from embedded resources...does that involve disk IO or is the entire assembly file loaded into memory including embedded files?
[11:18]<svlnvnz>hi
[11:19]<svlnvnz>is pinvoke able to call variable argument functions (ellipsis...)?
[11:28]<svlnvnz>re
[12:10]<wjzsvgg2jd>hi, i'm trying to make a simple client to a server (text messages), i just finished reading about delegates and events and treads, now i was wondering how i could let tcpclient trigger an event on new server reply
[12:27]<wjzsvgg2jd>nobody ?
[13:32]<lcs>anybody alive?
[13:32]<drygq>if my program needs to read existing xml files, and then add childnodes etc -> what .net technology should i use
[13:33]<drygq>a xmlreader to read..? (i used this once), and what to write ?
[13:33]<gzup>xmlwriter
[13:33]<drygq>there are so much articles writing about DOM / XML serialization.. confuses me..
[13:37]<wjzsvgg2jd>Gruf do you perhaps know an answer to my question ?
[14:11]<sdnffdxdlld>worstenboy: look into asyncronous sockets
[14:12]<wjzsvgg2jd>thnx for reply smellyhippy
[14:22]<cjmgrug>why is it so quiet!
[14:23]<pzrrnrvqt0wr>everybody's reading the "mythical man month"
[14:24]<cjmgrug>lol wtf..
[14:27]<y-gz>anyone to recommend an alternative of TRAC?
[14:37]<gzup>trac rox!
[14:38]<cjmgrug>how many of you actually create abstract base classes, for any project ?
[14:38]<gzup>but ok, team system, bugaware, bugzilla, jira
[14:39]<rgmznrs_>CodeRun, not me
[14:40]<rgmznrs_>that is, they're not abstract usually
[14:40]<rgmznrs_>but I know I should :(
[14:40]<rgmznrs_>(but it takes too much time fiddling with it)
[14:41]<cjmgrug>i see
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[15:00]<gzrmsxrmn>how do i use HttpWebRequest with files that are >2gb?
[15:16]<gzup>yoiks!
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[15:59]<cjmgrug>...
[16:23]<cjmgrug>smellyhippy: you around?
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